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'The New Dawn' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 93-292
most recent 18 JUL SHOW ALL
Initial post 9 JUN 16 by Paz
This rose is a survivor. On a family rural property, I had this rose growing on its own roots in a garden bed with plenty of other roses growing (all the other roses where grafted onto Dr. Huey) the garden bed was watered using a local dam that was being filled from time to time with bore water. The bore increased the concentration of salt (unbeknown to us at the time was the salinity of the bore water) in the dam and hence that water was used on the rose bed, which killed all the roses over the summer. Symptoms were burning of the leaves around the outside, die back and other typical symptoms of salt poisoning.... Indica Major, gigantic climber in this bed died very rapidly as well as all the HT and F.B's gone. There was some other survivors, Queen Elizabeth, 3 bushes (also grown on own roots) and some other Scarlet Carpet roses..these roses had some burning to the leaves, but continued to flower. The soil was intense heavy clay. I am going to explore using QEII, New Dawn and Scarlet Carpet rose as potential root stocks for salty/heavy clay soils... In the mean time, the bed has had all dead roses pulled out, dug up and allowed to be flushed with rain water to leach out the salts before replanting in a few years time.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 JUL by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for a fantastic description of salt-damage in heavy clay.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 18 JUL by Lavenderlace
We give these no water and they are still incredibly vigorous. There should be a warning about the potential size in warm climates though!
Discussion id : 99-000
most recent 4 MAY 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 4 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace
New Dawn is extremely tough here in Z8. Some have been moved, planted in sandy soil, planted in clay, and several planted in what was a previous gravel road! Doesn't seem to be picky about the soil or shade conditions, zero blackspot. VERY fast growing with viscous thorns. Didn't bloom the first year but now covered in blooms with a strong soapy scent that wafts. Stayed green all winter with no protection.
Discussion id : 94-032
most recent 21 JUL 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 18 JUL 16 by Andrew from Dolton
I have a list of roses recommended by John Abercrombie in his 1813 book, ''Everyman His Own Gardener", maybe it is already posted, otherwise where would be the most appropriate place to post it too?
Kind regards, Andrew.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 21 JUL 16 by Patricia Routley
What about in the comments section of the book. See here:
If you have the edition number, that would be good to have too.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 21 JUL 16 by Andrew from Dolton
Many thanks, its posted with a picture too. Sorry to post this in the 'New Dawn' page, it was not intentional.
Discussion id : 93-918
most recent 8 JUL 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 8 JUL 16 by Andrew from Dolton
This rose has a truly cast iron constitution in my garden. In autumn 2014 I moved a two year old plant that had mostly covered a 3 metre by 2.5 metre trellis into a substantial cut leafed elder tree, Sambucus nigra 'Laciniata', because they flower together. I never bothered to cut it back at all but just draped its branches in amongst the elder in as "naturalistic" fashion as I could manage. It never turned a hair, just kept on growing although I did irrigate it a little during a short drought (two weeks without rain) in early June of 2015. This was helped by a very cool summer, I had a bloody ground frost in July! Now in 2016 it is as vigorous as ever and the pale pink double blooms look splendid in amongst the ferny leaves and creamy lace flowers of the elder tree. Furthermore, I live in an horrific location for blackspot, where even the native Rosa arvensis that grows everywhere succumbs and is mostly defoliated by September. However, this rose is as glossy and healthy as always showing no signs of the disease whatsoever.
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