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Edmunds' Roses
Discussion id : 49-989
most recent 24 NOV 10 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 NOV 10 by Michael Garhart
Edmunds is no longer in Oregon as HMF states. Its located somewhere east of here, where ever Jung is.
Discussion id : 4-334
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Initial post 6 NOV 03 by Unregistered Guest
I have been looking for a Magic Lantern rose. Heirloom Roses in St. Paul suggested I contact your nursery. Can you help locate this rose for me?
Reply #1 of 7 posted 7 NOV 03 by Unregistered Guest
The last vendor listed carrying Magic Lantern is Muncy's. They are at but I don't see it on their site. Sorry.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 9 MAR 06 by Anonymous-797
I am sorry to say that Mr. Ken Muncy passed away unexpectedly in early Jan.2006. The Muncy Nursery is no more. They have closed the nursery
Reply #3 of 7 posted 10 MAR 06 by Unregistered Guest
Your best bet is to find a plant and take a cutting. Its worth while I have a Magic Lantern and they are a wonderful rose.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 13 MAR 06 by Terre
Funny you should ask...

Boy, do I have a story to tell about this one:

Magic Lantern was deliberately withdrawn from access by the public market in 2001 by the patent holder: Jackson & Perkins. It is a fabulous rose and this decision isn't uncommon when professional breeders desire exclusivity of certain traits or for reasons of their own. It happens all the time. I was told the patent was no longer available for purchase rights either which merely confirmed my suspicions it would be impossible to find later. I was in the industry at the time and got several of the last specimens of this delicious rose after advance knowledge of their intent. As a true blue rose addict, I grabbed what I feared I'd never have access too again, and planted them in my public gardens.

I had a collection of some 900 roses. Among my collection were roses for propagation stock which were about 50 'sports' and hundreds of antiques which are unpatented; others which were being tested as a service to known rose breeders, 100 were rescued, others were 'found', and SOME(like Magic Lantern) were patented varieties I could not do anything with but plant in my gardens open to the public for walks and meditation.

When tragedy befell my gardens and my family, I contacted the rose society I belonged too and lovingly listed all my roses as available at less than wholesale, in order to save them.

To this day I remain shocked at what happened following that innocent outreach! Some vile excuse for a 'consulting rosarian' used the internet to publicly accuse me of propagating patented material without paying patent fees (not even close to the truth) because she'd misunderstood the list. She even re-wrote my list to reflect her libelous statements and e-mailed it too more collectors. Among those roses she falsely accused me of illegally propagating was Magic Lantern (I gave away what I'd bought). My point in writing this is DO NOT PROPAGATE THIS ROSE or any other that is patented. It gets weirder...

Guess who secretly contacted me to propagate that and many other patented roses?! Other rose society members! (Of course I refused!) Wow! too weird for me, I GAVE the roses away, and cancelled my rose society support.

My advice is be careful, there's a million wonderful rose lovers out there but that one bad apple can get a loose stem and fall right in your lap!

My name is Terre Ashmore and I'm a rose addict... thanks for letting me share.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 31 MAR 10 by Basheba
That's sad that someone would do that after you were being so kind. I have yet to figure out why some people are so vile. That woman could have contacted you first before she jumped to conclusions. My only guess is that people like that are very unhappy in life.
I hope you build your rose garden back up!
Reply #6 of 7 posted 1 APR 10 by Unregistered Guest
Thank you for your kind thoughts and deeds. I have returned to my horticultural roots, so-to-speak: I teach horticultural classes on designing and installing habitat for wild and captive animals. Only wild and species roses are in my collection now, and my views on organized groups is circumspect at best... I prefer the individuals God puts in my path to the groups!
Keep the (Gardeners') Faith!
Terre Ashmore
Reply #7 of 7 posted 24 NOV 10 by Michael Garhart
Washington Park has it in their garden. Their rules state that you may ask for cuttings if you prove that the variety is no longer available commercially.
Discussion id : 48-424
most recent 26 SEP 10 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 26 SEP 10 by Carol T
They are not the same as Phil and Kathy Edmunds. Two years I wasted my hard earned money on lousy roses. The second year I insisted on getting a refund for one rose and then a second one. I did not want a credit to next year's order.

I read on RC that they have gotten better this year, I tried to get on mailing list but I am still banned. Customer Service is bitter.
Discussion id : 48-060
most recent 12 SEP 10 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 SEP 10 by Carol T
Edmunds was the best when it was owned by Phil Edmunds. Now Jung is horrible. I got two years of horrible dried out, tiny, broken plants. In 2008 I demanded a refund because I was not going to waste my hard earned money. They wanted to give me credit to next year order. I am banned from buying from them. Is this a way to keep a business?

I tried to get newsletter this month because I have read that they have improved. I got email from customer service tellinng me I am still banned from ordering from them.
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