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'Magnolia Rose' Reviews & Comments
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Beauties of Roses - (1850-1853) 1980 facsimile edition, pp. xxi-xxii
Henry Curtis
Devoniensis
The fortunate raiser of this Rose was the late George Foster, Esq., of Oatland, near Devonport, whose brother Edward W. Foster has kindly favored us with .the following informations as to its parentage, &c. “The Devoniensis was raised by my brother, a genuine lover of horticulture and a true florist. His opinion was that it was produced from the Yellow China by an impregnation of the Yellow Noisette Smithii which was growing alongside it, as he was in the constant habit of impregnating his roses. One of some seeds saved at the same time produced a rose much like the Yellow Noisette, but greatly inferior to Devoniensis; it flowered the first year from the seed bed, but was small and weak, and the second year on being budded on a strong stock, it grew to a very fine flower.”
“In the following year Mr. Pince, of the Firm of Lucombe, Pince, & Co., of Exeter,offered my brother twenty guineas for it, and it then passed into their hands; it is perfectly hardy but requires a rich strong soil.”
Those eminent horticulturists (Messrs. Lucombe & Co.,) state that Mr. Foster thought very highly of some other seedlings that were raised with Devoniensis, but after growing them with every care and comparing them with it, they (Messrs. Lucombe & Co.,) found them too inferior to send out, which shows the lottery attendant on raising seedlings. Devoniensis, however, exhibiting the brilliant prize that may sometimes be realized.
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Thanks Karl. Added.
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The Gardeners’ Chronicle 2: 238 (April 9, 1842)
Foreign Correspondence
Paris, 30th March, 1842.—That fine new English Rose, Devoniensis, was received here last autumn, and may perhaps be in the hands of four or five persons, but I feel confident that they will increase it with such rapidity as to be able to offer it to the trade in England at a much lower price than it can be purchased there.
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Gardeners' Chronicle p. 343 (May 29, 1841)
New Rose.—We have lately received from Messrs. Lucombe, Pince, and Co., of Exeter, specimens of a new Rose, by them called "Rosa Devoniensis." They state that it is far from being as fine as they shortly expect it to be, the flower having been cut from a small young plant. They are of opinion that it possesses properties which entitle it to be considered one of the finest Roses which has ever been introduced. The flowers which we received were finely formed, very double, much above the average size; and it is evident that the plant has a vigorous and excellent habit. We also found it deliciously fragrant; the colour is a clear, delicate, primrose yellow, with a somewhat deeper centre. The flowers, though large and double, had expanded freely, without any imperfection or hard green eye.
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I think the description for 'Devoniensis' has been copied verbatim from the one for 'Climbing Devoniensis'. In my experience, the bush form grows to about 80cm high and 60cm wide. The climbing form also has slightly larger flowers.
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Yes. My bushes are about that height too. Fixed. Thank you Charles.
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You would have seen the plant at Carlsruhe churchyard, Patricia? See Billy's comment. Given plenty of time, in a climate warmer than where it was bred, it can get big.
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Sorry, I can't remember the height.
I, and probably Charles too, are gardening in cooler climates. What would you say is the approx max height and width. The Tea book says "low growing" and "medium height".
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I have added a couple of photos of the two 'Devoniensis' plants growing at Carlsruhe Cemetery in the Mid North of South Australia. These photos were taken a few years ago. When I first saw these plants they were way over my head (I am just a smidge less than 5ft) but these photos show the bushes after they were severely pruned one year. It is definitely 'Devoniensis' the bush as it has never thrown climbing canes.The two graves have burials in 1888 and 1893 only.
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Thank you Pat. They are superb photos. I know Leo was a fairly tall man so I have increased the maximum height and width to 2m x 2m. If my bushes ever got anything near as healthy as the Carlesruhe bush, I'll have to dispense with the path. Leaning out over the path, that spray of white behind the orange on the left, is one of my two bushes. (I planted another one right alongside to a named 'Devoniensis' so I could confirm the identity).
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Apologies for the delay in responding. In my experience the shrub form of 'Devoniensis' is one of the slower growing Teas but given time, it will become quite large in warmer climates. The 20 year-old plant in our garden was a modest, sparse plant for about 10 years and then began growing more strongly. It is now about 2 metres tall and this is a pattern reported by others who grow it here. (The climbing form doesn't seem to have the same long childhood - it grew prodigiously from the start.)
Very old plants of the shrub form of 'Devoniensis' seen in this country have been 1½ - 2 metres tall, depending on the harshness of the conditions and the severity of pruning. The big old 'Devoniensis' plants at Carlesruhe cemetery were clipped back quite hard when we last visited, and were dense mounds of about 2 metres.
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