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'Slater's Crimson China' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 104-201
most recent 8 AUG HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 AUG by CybeRose
The Universal Herbal, Or, Botanical, Medical, and Agricultural Dictionary p. 484 (1824)
Thomas Green
38. Rosa Semperflorens; Deep-red China Rose. Fruits oblong, with the peduncles hispid; stems and petioles prickly, hispid; leaves subternate, prickly; flowers large in proportion to the plants, semi-double, with great richness of colour, (dark red) uniting a most delightful fragrance.—They come out in succession during the winter months.— Native of China.
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Discussion id : 104-200
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Initial post 8 AUG by CybeRose
The Cyclopaedia; Or, Universal Dictionary of Arts, Sciences and Literature, Volume 31, page 14 (1819)

[Scilla nutans; Hare-bell Squill]: "The flowers have a light sweet scent, more perceptible than in the preceding [S. campanulata], and resembling that of the Dark China Rose, Rosa semperflorens."
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Discussion id : 104-199
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Initial post 8 AUG by CybeRose
The history of Sumatra p. 106 (1811)
William Marsden
The buniga mawur (rosa semperflorens, Curtis, No. 284), is small, and of a deep crimson colour. Its scent is delicate, and by no means so rich as that yielded by roses of our climate.
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Discussion id : 87-710
most recent 3 AUG 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 6 SEP 15 by LIONEL41
G'day
I may be idiot but when type in 'R. chinensis semperflorens' ALL things vaguely chinensis lumped in with IT ?????????????????????????????????
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 6 SEP 15 by jedmar
Yes, it is a beauty with many names....
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 29 JUL 16 by scvirginia
I agree that it is troublesome to have varieties, such as 'Slater's Crimson China' "lumped in" with the species names. Yes, we can say that Slater's is a variety of R. chinensis, Semperflorens, etc., but in order for these to be synonymous, every example of R. chinensis would then need to be the same as 'Slater's'. Such is not the case.

There is a mingling of species and varietal names attached to this record that does make it look a bit like an All-things-China dumping ground. I think this record would be more useful and less confusing if the names were sorted out with more discrimination; I do think that some- such as 'Slater's'/ "Belfield" and 'Bengale pourpre semi-double' (hidden name)- need their own records. Sub-categories of R. indica such as diversifolia might warrant separate records as well?

Virginia
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 3 AUG 16 by jedmar
'Slater's Crimson China' is supposed to be R. chinensis semperflorens, and not only Belfield. The older references show the synonyms.
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