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'Madame Falcot' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 27-416
most recent 9 JUL 18 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 JUN 08 by Patricia Routley
Re: Habit:Thornless (or almost)

How old is this reference please? The older pictures seem to have some quite large thorns.
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 17 JUN 08 by jedmar
The reference is from Singer 1885, who says ''few but quite large prickles''.
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Reply #2 of 11 posted 18 JUN 08 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Jedmar. I am trying to work out if an unknown rose "Wood St. Buff Yellow" could be 'Mme. Falcot'.
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Reply #3 of 11 posted 18 JUN 08 by jedmar
Colour of bloom and of new branches would speak for, but the short sepals and form of prickle (admittedly only one) against Mme Falcot.
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Reply #4 of 11 posted 18 JUN 08 by Patricia Routley
Thanks again Jedmar, In that case, can someone move those pictures out of the 'Mme. Falcot' page and into a new page for this Western Australian foundling ""Wood St. Buff Yellow" .
We can add any details once this new page is open.
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Reply #5 of 11 posted 18 JUN 08 by jedmar
I think you need opinions on this from more experienced rosarians than mine. I have opened the new page for 'Wood St. Buff Yellow'; but would suggest to leave the comments and pictures as a reference under 'Mme Falcot', too, and upload the pictures and description again under the heading of the Found Rose.
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Reply #6 of 11 posted 19 JUN 08 by Patricia Routley
I doubt if we could find too many more experience than you Jedmar. However....
Viru and Girija - are you out there anywhere? You have written in the 'Australian Rose Annual' 2008, p125 that Mme Falcot "does well in India". Are my pictures what you grow as 'Mme. Falcot'?
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Reply #7 of 11 posted 19 JUN 08 by cree
Hi Patricia,
Can you tell if / where Wood St buff Yellow is available? If not, does anyone supply bud wood?
Thanks
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Reply #8 of 11 posted 20 JUN 08 by Patricia Routley
Hello Cree,
See my reply in the "Wood St. Buff Yellow" file.
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Reply #9 of 11 posted 23 JUN 08 by Unregistered Guest
The flowers and young growth certainly look like M. Falcot but a distinctive feature of the M.Falcot we grow in India is the yellow green color of the mature foliage. If the mature foliage shows this color than it would confirm that your plantis indeed M.Falcot.
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Reply #10 of 11 posted 9 JUL 18 by HubertG
From the Rosen-Zeitung 1888, page 36:

"Im Jahre 1864 kamen in den Handel ...
... 3. Madame Charles (Thee, Damaizin); Blume mittelgross, leicht gefüllt, Farbe dunkel nankinggelb, halbkugelförmig; ein Gegenstück der Mme. Falcot"

Onto the market in the year 1864 came ...
... 3. Madame Charles (Tea, Damaizin); Flower medium sized, lightly double, colour dark nankeen yellow, hemispherical form; a counterpart to Mme. Falcot.

Edit: Uh-oh! I just realised I posted this under Mme Falcot really intending it for Mme Charles, No matter - it refers to Mme Falcot anyway. I'll leave it up for now.
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 9 JUL 18 by Patricia Routley
I have added the reference to 'Mme. Charles'. Thanks HubertG
(Rather than tacking your new comment on to the end of a 2008 thread, you can always make a new comment.)
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Discussion id : 94-431
most recent 16 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 AUG 16 by raingreen
taken from Bennet, J. 1889. The winter on the Genoese Riviera, roses in a limestone soil. Pages 551-552 in: Gardeners chronicle & new horticulturist, Volume 1:

"All who wish here to make money by Roses in winter, plant and cultivate the Safrano, and little else. Madame Falcot is equally good and tractable, but is much more sparse in blooming, and cannot be relied upon in the same way for a remunerative crop."

This indicates Mme Falcot should be an excellent winter bloomer.
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Discussion id : 32-489
most recent 18 DEC 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 DEC 08 by John Hook
I've just posted the clone from Viru and Girija, unfortunately not a very good picture
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