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Discussion id : 123-895
most recent 14 NOV 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 NOV 20 by Singularly Beautiful Roses
New Reference; Marsh, David, "An Amateurish Effort? The Foundation of the National Botanic Gardens of Burma, 1914-1922," Garden History, Vol. 43, No. 2, 2015, 196.
"There is one permanent reminder of Cooper's short time n Maymyo. Charlotte [Lady Wheeler-Cuffe] had collected a climbing white cluster rose from the Kutkai plateau in the northern Shan states which Cooper thought might be 'new' but was certainly 'beautiful and curious'. She had planted it in her own garden and Cooper sent seeds gathered from it to Glasnevin and Edinburgh. Graham Stuart Thomas thought it closely related to Rosa odorata but with darker red twigs and thorns. More recently it was thought to be a naturally occurring hybrid between Rosa gigantea and Rosa laevigata and it is listed in the RHS Plantfinder as Rosa cooperi (Cooper's Burma rose)."
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 14 NOV 20 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Stephen. Reference added. “.....sent seeds”. I am presuming that this was the only rose that Lady Wheeler-Cuffe was growing in her Burma garden.
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Discussion id : 107-509
most recent 21 JAN 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 JAN 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Graham Stuart Thomas. CLIMBING ROSES OLD & NEW, published 1965, Aldine Press, Letchworth, Herts.
p.95
'Cooper's Burmese Rose' or 'Cooperi'. Raised about 1931. A plant was received by Mr Courtney Page at the National Rose Society's Trail Ground, then at Haywards Heath, Sussex, from an unrecorded source, and no other plants were traced at Kew or Edinburgh where Mr Cooper's seeds, collected in wild in Burma, were being grown. It grew well on a pillar at Haywards Heath, but used to suffer in cold winters. The leaves are extremely glossy, the flowers single, pure white, and the plant somewhat resembles R. laevigata. An interesting undetermined rose suitable for a sheltered wall.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 19 JAN 18 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Andrew. Reference added.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 21 JAN 18 by Andrew from Dolton
I would like very much to find out more information about a garden in Haywards Heath called Earldom (as in the rose 'Earldomensis' a pteracantha hybrid). My parents lived in the town over thirty years and I grew-up there. It was from 1915 (I think) until just after his death in 1948 the home of The Royal National Rose Society's rose garden and trial ground and the private home of Mr Courtney Page and his wife, members since 1892. Situated on the Lewes Road in Haywards Heath. I still have relatives in the town and often go back and have unsuccessfully looked for the house on several occasions. One of the most expensive roads in town with many substantial houses and big gardens, I guess that name may have been changed during the last 70 years. I contacted the local horticultural society but they couldn't help and now the R.N.R.S. is defunct I have come to a dead end.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 21 JAN 18 by Patricia Routley
Andrew - I have responded in the page for Courtney Page.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 21 JAN 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Thank you so very much, and I have responded accordingly.
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Discussion id : 29-890
most recent 20 AUG 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 AUG 08 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Available from - Vintage Gardens
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Discussion id : 7-718
most recent 26 FEB 05 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 FEB 05 by Fred Boutin
There is no history of it having been bred. Reportedly it was grown from seed sent from Burna to Ireland, collected on Mount Victoria, in then Burma. Rosarians have conjectured that it may have come from a cross( one assumes a natural cross) of R., laevigata and R., gigantea. Kew is treating it as a variant selection of R. laevigata. I believe it will turn out to be an as yet unnamed variety or subspecies of R. laevigata.

Class: variant or hybrid of laevigata
Breeding: grown from seed sent from Burma.
Parentage: possibly R. laevigata X R. gigantea

Fred Boutin, Tuolumne, CA
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 26 FEB 05 by RoseBlush
Fred,

Thank you for posting this information to the rose page.

Smiles,

Lyn
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