Book  (2011)  Includes photo(s).
 
p110. Photo. "David's Dilemma" (possibly 'Socrate', Robert & Moreau, 1858) (photo by Billy West).

p114. Hillary Merrifield. Mystery Tea Roses in Australia. "David's Dilemma" was originally collected by John Nieuwesteeg near Yea in Victoria, Australia, and given the study name of "Canon Vale Fig Tree Rose". This peach-scented rose may be 'Socrate' (1858), as it is similar to early plates and descriptions and is the same as the 'Socrate' in overseas gardens.

Book  (2001)  Page(s) 264.  
 
Socrate (Robert & Moreau, 1858) [synonyms of first edition no longer listed]

Book  (Apr 1993)  Page(s) 559.  
 
Socrates Team deep rose tinged fawn, 1858, Robert et Moreau.

Book  (Jun 1992)  Page(s) 88.  
 
Socrate ('Baronne G. Chandon', 'Princesse Marie Dagmar') Robert & Moreau, 1858. [Author cites information from different sources.]

Other  (1976)  
 
Préfecture du Val-de-Marne
Service Départemental des Parcs et Jardins               [pencilled CXLIX 58^T]
Roseraie de l'Hay
Nom Socrate   [pencilled: Mort 1982]
Obtenteur Robert et Moreau   année 1858
Section III  Espèce R. indica fragrans
Race Th.  Groupe C
Coloris Rose et abricot
Forme Large et double

Book  (1941)  Page(s) 73.  
 
Roses to Grow by “Damask Rose”
Other Roses.—La France (H.T.), silvery pink, sweet scented perfume; Madame Isaac Pereire (Bourbon), carmine, lovely scent, used for pot-pourri; W. A. Richardson, orange and white, climber; Gruss an Teplitz, scarlet, splendid bush Rose; Charles Lawson, vivid rose, climber, sweet perfume; Zephyrine Drouhin, pink, fragrant, vigorous; Safrano (Tea), apricot, good winter bloomer; Reine Victoria, pink, and White Reine Victoria, two fine shrub varieties, the latter being our best white shrub Rose; Socrates, pink, nice scent.

Book  (1938)  Page(s) 25.  
 
From A Walk about Glenara by Alister Clark

Across the path a bed of flowers is allowed only two Roses: Socrates, with its delicious scent suggesting various fruits and pretty autumn flowers, and ‘Princess de Sagan’, with its fadeless red flowers, small, but free and refined, almost a Bengal. Rosa gigantea in the next bed would reach over here to greet Socrates if allowed to do so.

Book  (1936)  Page(s) 670, 671.  
 
p. 670: Socrate (HP) Vibert ca. 1835; flesh-coloured [probably an error copied from the Nomenvlaure of 1899]

p. 671: Socrate [Socrates] (tea) Mor. & Rob. 1858; deep pink, center apricot, large, double, flat, opens, solitary or up to 3, fragrance 5/10 (peach), floriferous, continuous bloom, growth 7/10, bushy. = [similar to] Baronne G. Chandon, Princesse Marie Dagmar. Sangerhausen

 

Book  (1935)  Page(s) 37.  Includes photo(s).
 
Photo accompanying article 'Rose Notes From "Glenara", captioned:
VIEW IN MR. ALISTER CLARK’S GARDEN, “GLENARA,” BULLA, Facing Lookout Tower and showing old Rose Socrates.

Book  (1931)  Page(s) 18.  
 
Perfumed Roses by Alister Clark
Again, why are the following Roses not grown by those who demand scent as an essential:—Socrates, Marechal Niel, Mad. Maurice de Luze, Lady Maureen Stewart, Oskar Cordel, Edgar M. Burnett, Johanna Sebus, King of Siam, Dora Von Tets, Mrs. D. Jardine, Souv. de La Malmaison, Bona Weillschott, Frau Rose Benary, Richmond, Aurora, Zephirine Drouhin, Bishop Dr. Korum, Pink Rover, Conrad F. Meyer, Ards Rover, and Edward Mawley? It must be that scent is not considered to balance other slight defects, and they pass out. Zephirine Drouhin is indeed a gem amongst scented Roses, but sadly neglected, perhaps from want of size. Sweet Roses, like Papa Lambert and Mrs. George Norwood, are shelved on account of poor growth. Souvenir de Wooton, Princess Bonnie, Ma Tulipe and Gloire des Rosomenes for want of shape, yet no Roses are sweeter.