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'Mister Lincoln' rose Reviews & Comments
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There's an old 'Mister Lincoln' where I'm currently living, and I've had the chance to observe it for 5 or 6 years now so I thought I'd add my (non-expert) observations.
First, it's tough. I think that to actually kill the thing would require skill and determination. This is in a sub-tropical climate, which can get very hot and dry before the summer rains hit, and very hot and wet when they do. 'Mister Lincoln' will survive on minimal water in the dry times, when necessary, but will cope with sustained sub-tropical downpours too.
I do have some sympathy for the old beast, and have it (trans)planted where it gets full sun all day, with plenty of air circulation, good soil and good drainage. My transplanting was a bit rough, but it didn't seem to notice. It does get black spot at times but, as other people have noted, is so vigorous that it won't be too bothered. I do spray it very occasionally, if I think it really could do with it, but generally it just survives on a bit of water and feeding.
Feeding regime is very loose, and consists of a mixture of packaged rose food, Seasol, Epsom salts, and whatever else seems like a good idea at the time, whenever I remember and feel a bit guilty. Despite this, it still throws out the typical 'Mister Lincoln' flowers in intermittent flushes.
The only real drawback is that, like a lot of Hybrid Teas, the bush itself is not that great to look at when it is not in flower. Even in flower, it tends to be the typical Hybrid Tea "flowers on top of spikey sticks, with sufficient foliage to keep the thing fed".
However, if you need an idiot-proof rose that makes big, stinky, red flowers, this one works.
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My experience with 'Mr Lincoln' almost perfectly mirrors your own.
Most of the roses in that particular family group - siblings 'Papa Meilland' and 'Oklahoma' and especially one of the parents 'Charles Mallerin', are very tall, sparsely foliated scarecrows in the garden. The other parent, 'Chrysler Imperial', is more compact and attractive as a garden specimen, but how wonderful are the blooms of all these roses?
I grow them together as a family group. They're a gawky and ungainly family, apart from "Chrysler Imperial' - prickly and sparse - but they don't ask for much and yet it's rare not to be able to go out there and inhale that perfect fragrance, or to gather a special bunch of fragrant red roses for a special friend or special occasion. I'd hate to be without them.
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I've never actually seen the parent plants. I'll have to look them up.
Update (start of May 2015): I also threw in a baby Lincoln last year, just a few metres away, to keep the old beast company. It's been in the ground a bit under twelve months now, and was your basic hardware store body bag.
It's been behaving exactly as a baby Lincoln should, namely heading straight for the sky like a very spiky and enthusiastic rocket. Height is already up to 1.2 metres. Foliage is looking pretty good, despite hardly ever being sprayed and despite all the rain, heat and humidity over the past several months. In fact the only times I sprayed it was when I was trying to keep the !&#%! Meilland 'Peace' alive, and thought I might as well do the Lincolns too. It probably wouldn't have cared if I'd sprayed it with Roundup and nitric acid.
It's been looking so happy with itself that I haven't bothered debudding it in deference to its youth. It hasn't produced a lot of flowers yet, but the ones it has produced have been up to usual Lincoln standards.
Summary: they're still idiot-proof, even if you don't source them from the best nursery.
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#3 of 4 posted
22 JUL 15 by
boopie
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What does it mean to debud? Is there a special technique? I see this term used alot, and I assume it has to do with flower production and a type of prunning?
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In this context it means knocking the flowers buds off a young plant, so it puts energy into growth rather than flowering. Gets it off to a good start, so to speak.
Can also be used to produce bigger flowers, but fewer of them, on established plants. The same trick is also used on fruit trees sometimes, giving fewer fruit, but bigger ones.
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Has anyone seen Mr. Lincoln behaving like this before?
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#2 of 4 posted
18 SEP 14 by
 Jay-Jay
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What do You mean by that Margaret?
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Sorry, it was a feeble joke. Abraham Lincoln was known in his time as "Honest Abe" (I wish we could say the same of many politicians now): but in your photo Mr Lincoln was showing a different and unknown side of himself!
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#4 of 4 posted
18 SEP 14 by
Jay-Jay
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I knew the abbr. for Abraham, but didn't make the connection with MISTER Lincoln.
And I didn't know about the supplement HONEST.
Thank You for the info and the joke.
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I find protecting it in a flower garden or perennial garden and some shade , it is the most beautiful red rose in my garden. Thick petals, last on plant for a long time and are long stemmed. The bush took a few years to become what it is now, a huge tall strong gorgeous red. A must for any rose garden.
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Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with the HMF community - that's what HMF is all about.
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Your welcome, the site is wonderful and so informative. After gardening and being a avid Rosarian for over 35 years, you learn one thing early on, every time you walk In the garden it is a lesson. And sharing that knowledge is what it is all about.
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29 JAN 14 by
rose88
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Hello !
I recive by mail order bareroot rose of Mr.lincoln.
He only has one arm (one stick)
not 3 stick as we all know.
(the rose have healthy root and stick by the way .)
Did he develop to a good bush ?
(a balanced and good discourse)
Thanks!
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#1 of 4 posted
31 JAN 14 by
Danda
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With patience and care this rose ought to be quite okay.
I find that when planting bare-root roses, the root system is far more important than the top bits.
Most are pruned way back anyway. The more root area it has in proportion to the top growth, the faster it will establish and thrive.
So long as it is a healthy specimen it WILL grow and thrive given proper care.
Sometimes these smaller lower "grade" bare-roots will actually in the course of a growing season equal or even outperform a higher "grade" rose with more canes.
I have had a ton of experience on both sides of the Atlantic and I can't tell you how many times a runt became a prize specimen in a season.
Mister Lincoln is a vigorous rose, so once he starts getting settled, he won't stop!
Good luck!
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#2 of 4 posted
31 JAN 14 by
rose88
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Many thanks !
It's really encouraging :-)
Rose had a particularly healthy roots
(You can see a picture of my one stem rose on my pictures )
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#3 of 4 posted
2 FEB 14 by
Danda
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Yes, looks like plenty of root mass to support the healthy cane.
I will wager that given good cultivation and care, your rose will flourish and you will see new canes sprouting and by the end of season, you won't recognise it!
I have actually had success with roses that looked worse off than yours.
Give it good soil and compost, bury the bud union maybe 2 inches either in the bed or in a container, mix in some bone meal and give it regular fertilizer during its first growing season.
You may also wish to dis-bud (remove) the first few flower buds to encourage more leafy and cane growth.
I have never had a bare-root "fail" me given a bit of extra care in this way.
Some will flourish almost instantly and others take a settling in period before they burst with new growth.
A lot of my prize specimens started out looking just like yours.
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#4 of 4 posted
2 FEB 14 by
rose88
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Thanks ! so nice to know they will be o.k.
I wiil send a photo in May....
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