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Discussion id : 104-386
most recent 13 AUG HIDE POSTS
Initial post 13 AUG by scvirginia
from L'horticulteur français, 1 January 1855, p.10:
Les Massifs de Rosiers.
..nous avons indiqué comment on pouvait obtenir de beaux massifs de rosiers de la section des hybrides; nous entreprenons aujourd'hui d'en former avec les rosiers dits de l'Ile Bourbon. Nous avons choisi, comme pour les hybrides, les variétés dont la végétation, à peu près égale, permet de les planter dans un même compartiment de parterre, et nous continuons de marquer par le signe + celles d'une végétation un peu plus grande et par celui de — les variétés qui poussent modérément.
+Gloire de Dijon, blanc carné jaunâtre.
Discussion id : 104-335
most recent 12 AUG HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 AUG by scvirginia
from The Floral World and Garden Guide, June 1873, p.166:
Yellow Roses.
It will be of some service to the amateur, perhaps, if we run through the list of yellow teas in alphabetical order, and make such remarks on the more important of them as appear necessary.
Gloire de Dijon, too well known to need a character, but it is proper to observe that as it has a fine constitution and seeds freely, it is well adapted to breed from, and probably the pollen of Marechal Niel is the best that can be found to fertilize it.
Discussion id : 103-904
most recent 3 AUG HIDE POSTS
Initial post 2 AUG by scvirginia
From Paul's The Rose Garden, 1863, p.269:
The Tea-Scented Rose.
38. † Gloire de Dijon; flowers yellow, buff, orange, and salmon shaded, large and full; form, globular. Growth, vigorous. One of the best. A splendid wall or pillar Rose.

[Teas] which are marked †, are far hardier than the others, and form good Standards.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 AUG by Margaret Furness
Standards (tree roses)? That would have to be in an English climate. In a warm one, Gloire de Dijon and many other Teas would be far too heavy for the stem.
Likewise, though not relevant to this rose, "suitable for pegging down" is a comment that needs to be qualified by stating where it applies. In a climate where grass keeps growing during the winter, pegging down is a recipe for an awful mess. Likewise, naturalising bulbs. Espaliering such roses works much better in warm climates. If pegging down is tried there, very heavy mulching underneath would be crucial.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 3 AUG by scvirginia
I'm sure Paul's advice was generally useful for his fellow gardeners in England in the middle of the 19th century, but, yes, a few of the rules and regs of English rose gardening need to be bent- or thrown out altogether- in warmer climates. The dictum about roses needing at least 6-8 hours of full sun is (was?) not always applicable, especially with higher UV levels and hotter, drier weather due to climate change.

Discussion id : 103-661
most recent 30 JUL HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 JUL by scvirginia
from Wright's Pictorial Practical Rose Growing, 1902, p.126:
Twenty-five Teas for the Garden
Gloire de Dijon, buff, climbing.
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