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Discussion id : 104-025
most recent 4 AUG 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 4 AUG 17 by Sambolingo
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Discussion id : 72-135
most recent 24 DEC 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 3 JUN 13 by Simon Voorwinde
Where did 'Harison's Yellow' get its double flowers from???
Reply #1 of 1 posted 24 DEC 15 by CybeRose
One parent was presumably a double Scotch rose. I would guess that it was pink or blush because Prof. Allard raised some pink-flowered plants from self-seed of 'Harison's Yellow'.

Harison also raised a white-flowered seedling that was very similar to his famous yellow, but it was never as popular.

Jardins de France 1: 725 (1900)
M. Allard. — Ayant récolté à différentes reprises des fruits du Rosa Harrisonii, j'en ai semé les graines et j'ai obtenu toute une série de Rosiers à fleurs simples, blanches, roses, jaunes et une à fleur semi-double, ayant la couleur et le même ton que celle du Rosa lutea Miller. Tous sont des arbustes nains qui se rattachent au Rosa pimpinellifolia, par les caractères principaux: aiguillons, feuilles, fruit pourpre noir, etc.

Le Rosa Harrisonii a également des caractères du Rosa pimpinellifolia, mais il se rapproche des Rosa lutea par la coloration de la fleur. Cependant, il est considéré par nombre de rosiéristes comme n'étant qu'une variété de ce Rosier. Ce serait, croyons-nous, un hybride issu du Rosa pimpinellifolia croisé par le R. lutea.

Prof. Allard. — Having harvested at different times the fruits of Rosa harrisonii, I planted the seeds and got a variety of roses with single flowers, white, pink, yellow and one semi-double flower, with the same color and tone as that of Rosa lutea Miller. All are dwarf shrubs that run with the Rosa pimpinellifolia, for the main characters: prickles, leaves, purple black fruit, etc.

The Rosa harrisonii has also characters of Rosa pimpinellifolia, but it is closer to Rosa lutea in the color of the flower. However, it is considered by many rose growers as being a variety of this Rose. This would be, we believe, a hybrid of Rosa pimpinellifolia crossed by R. lutea.
Discussion id : 62-943
most recent 24 MAR 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 MAR 12 by CybeRose
Magazine of Horticulture 5: 258 (1839)
We were particularly pleased with several very pretty yellow roses, seedlings of Mr. Hogg's; one of the number was peculiarly fragrant, and also a well formed flower, second only to Harrisonii. None of the kinds are yet named, but we hope Mr. Hogg will designate them in some way that they may be better known and introduced into collections.
Discussion id : 59-847
most recent 10 DEC 11 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 DEC 11 by CybeRose
The Garden 25: 326 (April 19, 1884)
Harrison's Yellow Rose.— A few years ago I gave an account in THE GARDEN (Vol. XVII.) of all the American-named Roses up to that date, and among them Harrison's Yellow, which your correspondent "J.C.C." notices and speaks of as a valuable little Rose, whose parentage was unknown to him, but which appears to be a hybrid between the Persian yellow and some of the Scotch ones; and, further, that from whence this Rose came is not of much consequence. Now I differ from him somewhat, as I think it quite important to know the parentage of every fine plant or fruit, that we may know what hybridisation has accomplished, and as some slight guide to what we may expect in the production of hybrids. I gave the full account of this Rose in the Magazine of Horticulture in 1835, pretty nearly half a century ago. It was named before the Persian yellow was introduced to this country. At the time of my visit to Captain Harrison he could not state what varieties were the parents of his yellow Rose, as he rarely kept any account of them, but made it a practice to fertilise with any variety then in bloom, and it is probable that the parents were the yellow Scotch and perhaps the Austrian Rose. But of this we may be sure that if the grand Marechal Niel came by successive fertilisation from the old Noisette Rose, we may yet expect, with the same perseverance and skill, a yellow Rose much finer than the Harrison.—C. M. Hovey

I cannot find the "full account" in the 1835 edition, but in 1835 a note was published from "An Amateur. Cambridge, July 10th, 1835":

"Rosa spinosissima L., (Scotch rose). The Scotch rose, the R. pimpinellifolia of the French, was but very little known beyond its wild state, till within late years. A communication by Mr. Sabine, in the London Horticultural Society's Transactions some time since, gives a history of this rose, and describes several seedling varieties. Since which time, however, hundreds of seedlings have been raised and cultivated: it is stated that not more than twenty-five or thirty are tolerably distinct. They are very desirable for early flowering, and no garden should be without a few of the best varieties. When planted in a clump, the effect of their profuse bloom is peculiarly showy. A seedling raised by Mr. Harrison, of New York, a few years since, is said to be a splendid variety: it is of a brilliant deep yellow, and perfectly double."
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