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'Heinrich Conrad Söth' rose Reviews & Comments
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I'd almost assume this rose is a selfling. Maybe I am missing something...
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#1 of 1 posted
26 JUN 15 by
Jay-Jay
Might be a good guess. I will try to harvest and sow some of the OP seeds next season. See what happens. I see no yellow or bi-colour in this rose what-so-ever. The plant is getting big and the leaves are coarse and wrinkled (not in the Rugosa manner) and often bigger in comparison to Mozart for instance. The colour of the foliage is a dull olive-green.
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In its third year, I'm really getting fond of this rose! Less "hard" in colors... friendlier so to say, than Mozart and way bigger! Bumblebees love to visit this one.
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A reference gives as parents: Geheimrat Dr. Mittweg X Kapuziner Austria lutea. The latter, I cann't find in the HMF database. Maybe it should be added to the list of names for this rose.
In the description is stated that the cross is: Geheimrat Dr. Mittweg × Rosa foetida var. bicolor Willmott. Considering the health (very disease resistant) of Dr. Conrad Söth this lineage wouldn't make sense, for 'Rosa foetida var. bicolor Willmott' is very present in this cross. And that is the origin/cause of blackspot in many roses.
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#1 of 4 posted
24 DEC 12 by
jedmar
Ja<-Jay, "Kapuzinerrosen" was a generic name given to Rosa foetida in German-speaking countries. Rosa foetida Herrm. was called Rosa lutea Mill. by many botanists, until it was accepted that Hermann's description has priority. Kapuziner Austria lutea is Austrian yellow = R. foetida Herrm. This is also the statement by Jäger in "Rosenlexikon". We will change the pollen parent accordingly.
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#2 of 4 posted
24 DEC 12 by
Jay-Jay
Thank You Jedmar. Would You take a shot at, how it comes, that this rose is so diseaseresistant?
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#3 of 4 posted
25 DEC 12 by
jedmar
The parentage would not make-it pre-destined for high disease resistance. In order to eliminate the influence of the microclimate of your garden, other owners of this rose should also comment on the disease-resistance.
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#4 of 4 posted
25 DEC 12 by
Jay-Jay
I referred to the description of Heinrich Conrad Söth on HMF: "USDA zone 4b through 9b. Can be used for garden or landscape. Very hardy. vigorous. Disease susceptibility: very disease resistant." That's part of the reason, that I choose this rose.
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In some of the references this rose is called a climber and it is referred to in books that describe climbers. I've seen the growth and suspected it to be a climber!
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Many things with Agalia behind them explode in milder, longer climates, developing into real climbers. In those cases, they require much harder pruning NOT to climb.
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#2 of 6 posted
24 DEC 12 by
Jay-Jay
You're welcome sir! Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones!
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#4 of 6 posted
24 DEC 12 by
Jay-Jay
Thank You and "Een prettig kerstfeest" to You too.
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#6 of 6 posted
24 DEC 12 by
Jay-Jay
And that's no "koeterwaals"! (gobbledygook)
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