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'Ave Maria' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 89-208
most recent 15 NOV 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 NOV 15 by Vladimír Ježovič
Jiří Sekera: Böhm růže Blatná, 2013, Vydalo město Blatná, page 125: sport from ´Ulster´
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 15 NOV 15 by Patricia Routley
I have added the reference but have not added the parentage because of the comments on file between Cass and Robert.
I have searched my computer for an ‘Ulster’ polyantha.
No ‘Ulster’ poly was listed in Dickson’s 1914 catalogue.
Neither ‘Ave Maria’ nor ‘Ulster’ (poly) was listed in Dickson’s 1938-9 catalogue.
My best bet of the parentage would be ‘Ulster Gem’, 1917 a white single HT which flowered in clusters.
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Discussion id : 77-946
most recent 1 MAY 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 MAY 14 by Grntrz5
I received this rose from Vintage Gardens 4-30-2014. This lovely rose turns off-white with a bit of age, and has a wonderful rose scent, the color and size of bloom reminds me of Hybrid Musk Penelope. The dark shiny green leaves are small, there are tiny prickles under a few of the leaf joints. The plant canes are flexible and well branched, and there are numerous buds waiting to open.
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Discussion id : 27-998
most recent 5 JUL 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 5 JUL 08 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Lineage states this rose is a polyantha and sport of a Hybrid Perpetual?

Not only is this highly unlikely, I suspect it's nearly impossible. You might want to reexamine your reference here.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 JUL 08 by Cass
The parentage is from Modern Roses 12. It is likely that Ulster is a different Ulster from the HP. Neither is mentioned in the American Rose Annuals of the period.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 5 JUL 08 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It sounds as if we will never know the real story. I'm sure you're correct. The parentage as stated looks very odd. Thanks Cass, Robert.
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