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'Madame Antoine Mari' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 77-438
most recent 1 MAR 18 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 APR 14 by frenchrose
This is an excellent rose for the Southeastern US. It is a continuous bloomer from April to late October or November here in North Carolina. Its actual size is much larger than your posted description. I have to struggle to keep this rose between five and six feet high.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 FEB 18 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
We have several bushes of Mme. Antoine in coastal SE Virginia (8A). Unseasonable cold in early January this year, an abrupt temperature plunge. Many of our Chinas had damage but Mme. Antoine had the most-- all 3 bushes had to be cut back almost to the ground.
We normally don't have to winter-protect our teas but I will at least mound mulch at the base on this one.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 MAR 18 by frenchrose
Sorry to hear your plants were damaged. Mine is still fine, and I am in zone 7a. It has some wind protection though, and it is well established. This has been a difficult winter. In my area, we set a record for the number of hours (200 or so) that it remained at or below freezing. Plants tend to dehydrate when that happens, and many of our evergreens look awful.
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Discussion id : 30-619
most recent 28 FEB 18 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 29 SEP 08 by anonymous-151782
Quite possibly one of the loveliest and most exquisite roses I have ever known. In appearance, it is wonderfully delicate and refined, but this is no weak, shrinking violet. Instead, 'Madame Antoine Mari' is robust, extremely healthy and a never-ending bloom factory. The new growth is a gorgeous plum-purple color and the overall growth habit is well-foliated, symmetrical and elegant. A hedge of this variety would be incredibly beautiful. This makes a delightful cut flower and it is *strongly* fragrant of classic tea rose to my nose. I don't know why so many references insist that this rose is only "delicately" scented. This is also the perfect tea rose to grow in a large pot. Her creamy, swirled pink blooms can break your heart!
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 MAY 13 by Hamanasu
Anonymous, I am interested in your comment about the fragrance. Which kind of climate do you live in? I don't have this rose, and the only thing that's keeping me from buying it is its supposedly light fragrance. If your rose smells gorgeous in your climate, and your climate happens to be similar to mine, then I will give it a go! I am in SE England, so my climate is cool and on the wet side. I know, it is not the best for teas, but I am counting on the low petal count of MMe Antoine Mari, which should help it open even in damp weather... I had Lady Hillingdon Cl, with similar petal count, and it did very well.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 FEB 18 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
Mme. Antoine opens very well in our humid coastal climate. However, I've never detected much fragrance especially when our serious heat sets in. We're in coastal Virginia and we're almost as hot as Charleston SC!
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Discussion id : 56-413
most recent 1 AUG 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 31 JUL 11 by Balinbear123
Is there any history of a climbing sport of Mme Antonine Mari.

While pruning some of our roses I discoved (too late unfortunately) that one of the branches of one of the plants had grown up onto the top of the pergola we have next to the roses (we grow wisteria on it) and had started to spread across the top. Probably about 3 metres high.

It may be jus the weather here but I would be interested to know if anyone else has had a similar plant.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 1 AUG 11 by billy teabag
I've not found any reference to a climbing 'Mme Antoine Mari' sport in any of the catalogues or rose literature seen so far. But Teas do have that tendency to push out very long growth to get their heads into the sun - and the more established the rose, the more often you see this sort of growth, especially where the rose has something to lean against - a support, another rose or a wall. Competition for space or light results in some mighty growth.
My Mme Antoine Mari has stayed reasonably shrubby so far - but it is in a very open position. In other parts of the garden, Safrano uses General Schablikine for a leg-up and makes very long growth. They get good morning sun but are in semi-shade from a bank of trees in the afternoon. And G. Nabonnand and Mons Tillier use each other as support to reach for the sky.
A local foundling we call "The Gill Rose" which is the same as "Octavus Weld" - usually grown as a shrub, grew 20 feet up a windmill trying to beat Honeysuckle to the sun and other roses we think of as shrubs of 2-3 metres in height are known to have scaled 2-story buildings in colder places. I think it's fascinating to see what Teas can do given time, opportunity, necessity and something to lean against.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 1 AUG 11 by Balinbear123
Billy

I certainly think that you are correct regading teas and their ability to get large if they have something to support the growth. This is probably especially so in warmer climates.

We have a Mme Lambard that is 3 or so metres tall and 6m diameter that rests on a pillar. My brother in law has a Peace 1902 that reaches the roof of his two storey home.

The Mme AM that I was talking about is one of 10 that grow around a pergola that we grow wisteria on. All the others have remained as shrubs about 1.2 high. All were grown from cuttings from a single rose that after many years is still only just over a metre tall.

I did some cuttings from the "climbing" bit so I will see how they go.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 1 AUG 11 by billy teabag
Good idea - will you keep us posted?
I'd love to see the plants you describe. Peace1902 to the roof of a 2-story house must be an incredible sight. Is it in bloom every month of the year?
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 1 AUG 11 by Balinbear123
I will keep you posted regarding the cuttings.

If you are in Queensland let me know and I can arrange a visit. I think it flowers the same as the shrubs. It always seems to be in flower when I'm over there..

I have sent a Mrs BR Cant (Clg) to Renmark with Margaret last year to see if it will climb in cooler weather. One of ours is now about 4 metres high shooting up through the arch on which it is growing and heading skyward. Unfortunately it is looking a bit scragly so I may have to trim the high bits off so it will thicken up on the arch again.
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Discussion id : 56-432
most recent 31 JUL 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 31 JUL 11 by Aurelija D.
It is a lovely rose and blooms quite a bit even in the cold Dutch summer, does not get diseases either so far. Said that however, it probably would not survive our mild winters and spring freezes without the greenhouse protection. My own root plant would have surely died without it, even with the winter temps barely bellow -5C and only for a couple of days.

I do not have (or intend to) to get a grafted plant for comparison, but looking at own root misery this (warm for us) spring, I would guess it might need a lot of pampering too to get it through the winter/spring freezes. It is beautiful, but care wise far too tender compared to modern HTs here, unless at least a cold frame is at hand. But yeah, in normal climate it makes most sense only as a greenhouse plant.
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