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'Jaune ancienne' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 73-524
most recent 13 AUG 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 13 AUG 13 by CybeRose
The Rose Amateur's Guide (1861) Page 139
Thomas RIVERS (Nurseryman.)
The Old Yellow Tea Rose bears seed abundantly; but it has been found, from repeated experiments, that a good or even a mediocre rose is seldom or never produced from it; but fertilised with the Yellow Briar, something original may be realised.
Discussion id : 73-473
most recent 10 AUG 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 AUG 13 by CybeRose
A General History of the Dichlamydeous Plants, Volume 2 p. 582 (1832)
By George Don

Rosa indica var. ochroleuca; flowers double, large, cream-coloured, without any scent. This variety was introduced from China in 1824 by Mr. Parks, and is figured in the thirteenth volume of the Botanical Register. It is commonly called the yellow Chinese rose.

[Don was wrong. The only rose in the 13th volume of Bot. Reg. is the double yellow Rosa banksiae.]
Discussion id : 49-916
most recent 22 NOV 10 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 22 NOV 10 by IanM
This rose may still be in existence in China. I have also seen photos taken in Italy of a rose that matches Redoute's illustration quite well.
Discussion id : 25-496
most recent 17 APR 08 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 APR 08 by Cass
The rose pictured in the images posted here is presumably the same as the rose in the Sacramento Old City Cemetery, which came into commerce from Sangerhausen, via Beales. The concerns I have with this attribution are:

1) It does not repeat.
2) It is not vivid yellow or the color of Marechal Niel.
3) It has very strong Tea scent, not mild Tea scent.
4) It has a climbing habit and is not a shrub.

Does anyone have any references that describe Parks Yellow Tea-scented China as non-remontant? Europeans knew yellow roses from R. hemisphaerica and surely would not have called this cream-colored rose "yellow." Even fresh opening buds have nothing more than a blush center surrounded by cream-tinted petals.

Also, does anyone have any pictures of the hips of this rose? I am not suggesting that this rose, whatever it is, isn't a very beautiful plant: it is stunning in full bloom. But I have serious doubts about it being named 'Parks Yellow Tea-Scented China.'

Also, does anyone know how well Marechal Niel repeats? Whether is sets hips? One possible ID for this beautiful white rose is 'Deegen's Maréchal Niel Weiss.'
Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 APR 08 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Marechal Niel almost never sets hips. It has been coerced to do so only with difficulty.
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