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'Briar Rose' Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 60-065
most recent 5 DEC SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 17 DEC 11 by Tomartyr
With the help of birds and suckering, Rosa canina has naturalised in some of the more arid parts of southern New Zealand, and it covers some quite large tracts of marginal land. Up until perhaps thirty years ago, a local manufacturing company sought to buy the ripe hips of this rose from the public, for the purpose of making a syrup rich in vitamin C that was popular for bottle-feeding to babies. As a child in the 1950s I earned pocket money by picking the hips and sending them off to the city for this purpose.
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 17 DEC 11 by Tessie
What a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing.

A beautiful rose with healthful benefits. I wonder what that syrup tasted like? I've been trying the hips on some of my roses. My favorite so far is R. spinosissima, but I have a form of dog rose, R. uncinella, and I'm looking forward to sampling the hips next year. Perhaps even experimenting with making rose hip tea.

Melissa
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 17 DEC 11 by Tomartyr
Sorry I can't help with a description of the flavour, Melissa. I'm sure I have tasted it, but my recall doesn't go back as far as bottle-feeding days!
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 17 DEC 11 by Jay-Jay
The syrup is still commercially sold in The Netherlands under the name Roosvicee.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 4 DEC by Andrew from Dolton
My mother wrecked my infant teeth with rose hip syrup and black currant syrup which in the late 1960's and early 1970's were recommended for newborns as health foods.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 18 DEC 11 by Patricia Routley
Dear Tomartyr,

I have a feeling that it is not R. canina (Dog Rose) that has naturalised in the south island, but R. eglanteria (sweet Briar) that has gone feral. I don't really know how to tell the difference between the two, apart from the distinctive apple perfume from the leaves of R. eglanteria when the air is moist.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 18 DEC 11 by Tomartyr
Having had a quick tour of the internet via Google, I think you may well be right, Patricia. There does seem to be a great deal of confusion between the two, though. When googling for images of R. canina, I found a photo of the thorns, which were quite different from the thorns on R. eglanteria (or R. rubiginosa 'Eglantera' as it seems may be be more correct). Also, I note on HMF that an alternative name for R. eglantera is 'Te Mihanere', which is unmistakably a Maori language name, suggesting the species has been endemic in New Zealand for a long time. Also, I have often heard our NZ plant referred to as 'sweet briar'. On the other hand, I've never noticed an apple fragrance, even though I grew up with these plants around. On balance, I think it is most likely R. eglanteria.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 18 DEC 11 by HMF Admin
Yes, how interesting. We second the thanks for sharing with the HMF community
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 5 DEC by Margaret Furness
Say Te Mihanere with extra letters... The missionary. They brought it with them. Epidemic, not endemic...
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Discussion id : 96-028
most recent 24 NOV HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 NOV by Byrnes, Robert L.
Would the following link from the University of Vermont be acceptable to change the hardiness zone from 6 to 3? Thank you.

http://pss.uvm.edu/pss123/rosa.html
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 23 NOV by Patricia Routley
I really don't know. I think there are different forms of canina. However, I have added the reference and changed the zone from 6b to 3b and hope that is OK.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 24 NOV by Byrnes, Robert L.
Thank you Patricia. I think the reference is regarding R. canina directly. Is there more than one form of R. canina?
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Discussion id : 91-329
most recent 6 MAR 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 MAR 16 by true-blue
R. canina (itburni, kelik; Javānšir, p. 155), dog rose; an erect (1-4 m high) or repent shrub with pink or white flowers, each 35-45 mm in diameter, solitary or corymbose, widely distributed in Persia; habitat: Azerbaijan, Gilān, Māzandarān, Gorgān, Semnān, Khorasan, Kurdistan, Lorestān, Kohgiluya and Boir Aḥmad, Hamadān, Isfahan, Tehran, Fārs (Ḵātamsāz, pp. 63, 65); also reported from Ṭāleš (Lankarān), Iraqi Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan (Zieliński, pp. 22-24).

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/gol
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Discussion id : 11-361
most recent 20 JAN 09 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 28 FEB 06 by Donna's Rose Garden - Northern CA
How easy is the dog rose to grow from seed?
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 28 FEB 06 by Wendy C.
Roses aren't like pansies. They produce seed but each seed is it's own rose. Roses are propagated by cuttings..either grafting, budding or rooting them.
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 4 MAR 06 by Donna's Rose Garden - Northern CA
Since the dog rose is a species rose, not a hybrid, I was under the impression that it could be grown from seed and remain true to the parent. Am I wrong in this assumption?

Anyway, I took the chance and am trying to grow from seed. Germination time takes 30 to 60 days so I guess I'll discover the truth this summer if I'm lucky.
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 5 MAR 06 by The Old Rosarian
I have the dog rose growing wild where I live and the birds will tell you that they are very easy to grow from seed. I would agree with the birds as they have planted many seeds in my garden. Do be warned that this rose suckers madly and has a very short bloom period.
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 5 MAR 06 by Donna's Rose Garden - Northern CA
Thanks for the warning. I planted the seed along a chain link fence at the back of our property where there is plenty of room to grow. Unfortunately, I didn't think about the birds and their propensity for re-seeding. Ummmm, I may re-think whether I want this rose or not. I was hoping to add a species rose for interest, but this may not be the one I should have selected.
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 19 JAN 09 by DesertDance
Hi! I can't find this rose to purchase anywhere and I would be happy to pay for some seeds or cuttings. I want this rose more for it's hips than anything! I plan to make tea and good vitamin C packed things to eat.
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 19 JAN 09 by Margaret Furness
For the record, this rose is bird-spread so readily it has become a declared weed in South Australia and I think also in New Zealand. I have a vague memory that its seeds may not sprout till the second year. But it's the same as Punch's advice to those about to marry: don't.
Rugosas and spinosissimas are good for hips, but again, if you are thinking of growing them on their own roots; don't. They sucker like mad.
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 20 JAN 09 by DesertDance
Margaret,. thank you so much for your tender advice. BUT! I WANT this rose! Nobody has it here and there are no birds spreading it. It would be a gift if they did. It is reputed to have the best tasting hips on the earth, and therefore, my quest exists!

Let it sucker!! I'll just plant more of it!
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 20 JAN 09 by Lyn G
Just click the BUY FROM tab on the rose page. The rose is probably sold under one of it's synonyms rather than by the name of 'Dog Rose'. Most likely is 'R. canina'
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 20 JAN 09 by DesertDance
I tried the buy tab. For $50 bucks including shipping I could get a weed that birds freely drop? Send me the bird!! Sorry, it just seems so silly that these places are selling a weed for so much cash.
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