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'R. woodsii' rose Reviews & Comments
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I haven't been able to enter this as a reference.
United States Department of Agriculture
NATURAL RESOURCES CONSERVATION SERVICE
Plant Materials Technical Note No. 97
February 2014
PLANT MATERIALS TECHNICAL NOTE
Acid and Heavy Metal Tolerant Plants for Restoring Plant Communities in the Upper Clark Fork River Basin
by Joe LeFebvre, Project Leader
Integration of Selected Native Plant Materials for Enhanced Restoration Activities in the UCFRB
General Description
Woods' rose, Rosa woodsii (accession number 9081638), is a spreading to erect, long-lived shrub native to the central and western U.S. and Canada. Woods' rose is a widely adapted species and grows in many habitat types. It is an understory plant in dry and moist forest communities, and also grows in sagebrush, juniper, mountain, plains and desert grasslands, prairie and alpine habitats. It primarily grows on upland sites, but can be found in wetlands, riparian areas, marshes, and along lake shores. Woods’ rose is an excellent plant for re-vegetating disturbed sites because it produces rhizomes, regenerates quickly, and has excellent survivability. It can be used to rehabilitate mine spoils and road cuts, control soil erosion on hillsides, and stabilize eroded stream banks.
NRCS−Montana−Technical Note−Plant Materials−MT-97 16
Origin
The original collection site, with a soil surface pH of 4.53, has an average annual precipitation of 10 to 14 inches, and an elevation of 5,168 feet. In the fall of 2000, Woods' rose was planted at the Mill Creek Woody CEP approximately four miles southwest of Anaconda, Montana. It was selected for its superior adaptation to moderately acidic and heavy metal-laden soils.
https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_PLANTMATERIALS/publications/mtpmctn12232.pdf
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Not a problem Karl. Reference added.
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#2 of 7 posted
14 SEP 19 by
 CybeRose
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Thanks, Patricia. I've been getting the hang of adding new references, but this one was too stubborn.
Karl
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A pleasure Karl. You have been doing well.
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What sort of problems did you have ?
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#5 of 7 posted
15 SEP 19 by
CybeRose
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I search for a reference I want to add, but can't find it.
Then I go through the alphabetical list. Still nothing.
Finally I go to the author and find the reference in that list of publications.
I add the rose to the publication in the author's list.
For instance, I just searched for Choix de Soixante Roses in the publications list, but it didn't turn up. However, I was able to get to it through Redoute's publication list.
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Try using CONTAINS and one key word - e.g. Agriculture or Choix
“Still nothing”. Because it wasn’t there in the first place.
We have:
U.S. Dept. of Agriculture, Forest Service Fire Effects Information System
U.S. Dept. Of Agriculture, Plant Inventory
Then, because you quoted the words in full, I then added
United States Department of Agriculture
Perhaps these three publications should all be merged under this last name (using Plant Inventory etc. as a heading in the reference) .
As HelpMeFind is now an international website, I favour spelling things out, as United States, rather than U.S. But I am only an Australian and don’t know about these things. It took Bill Grant to teach me that it was not the Californian way, but the California way. We could really do with more American volunteers here.
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#7 of 7 posted
16 SEP 19 by
CybeRose
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Patricia,
I went to Publications, etc. and searched for CONTAINS Choix.
All I get is Choix des Plus Belles Roses.
I then went through the alphabetical list of publications.
Again, Choix des Plus Belles Roses is there, but not Choix de Soixante Roses.
The only way I can find to get Choix de Soixante Roses is through Redoute's publication list.
Karl
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It should be noted that this rose suckers quite vigorously (at least the form generally available here), particularly in moist soils. The underground runners generally do not travel long distances compared to some roses (not more than 3-5 feet), however with time, and in moist soils, can form a dense thicket.
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It is worth noting that at this time (1818) Lee & Kennedy were distributing various double-flowered Scotch roses. Some of these were pale yellow, others bicolor. It may be that there was a yellow/purple bicolor. But how this became confused with a plant from The Missouri (river?) is another question.
Nomenclature raisonnée des espèces, variétés et sous-variétés du genre Rosier (1818) pp. 23-24
Auguste de Pronville
M. Noisette a reçu d’Angleterre un rosier qui paraît être une variété du pimpinellifolia, et qui vient du Missouri, Amérique-Septentrionale. M. Kennedy l’a envoyé sous le nom de rosa lutea nigra.
[Google translation: M. Noisette has received from England a rose-tree which appears to be a variety of pimpinellifolia, and which comes from Missouri, North America. Mr. Kennedy sent it under the name of rosa lutea nigra.]
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John Abercrombie mentions a striped scotch rose in the 1813 edition of Everyman His Own Gardener.
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#2 of 8 posted
24 JAN 17 by
CybeRose
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Here is a picture of a striped Scotch rose.
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.68656.1
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If it was the same R. spinosissima picta, it would put the date of that back from c1817 to before 1813
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In the 1839 edition of the book only Rosa spinosissima is mentioned briefly and no individual varieties of scotch roses are named.
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27 JAN 17 by
CybeRose
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Rowley (Journal of the Royal Horticultural Society, Vol. LXXXVI Past 10, October 1961 ) mentioned a striped Scotch Rose, Rosa ciphiana. A quick search turned up this:
Essays on Natural History and Rural Economy, p. 252 (1812)
By John Walker
Rosa ciphiana seu Rosa pimpinellae foliis minor nostras, flore eleganter variegato. Sibbald. Scot, illustrat. Pars II. Lib. i. p. 46. tab. 2.—lbi primum edita an. 1674.
And this:
Scotia Illustrata Sive Prodromus Historiae Naturalis (1684) p. 46
Robert Sibbald
Rosa ciphiana, seu Rosa Pimpinellae foliis minor nostras, flore eleganter variegato, Catal. Horti Medici Edinburgensis.
Rosam hanc, quod in Praedio meo Ciphiano sponte nascatur, Ciphianam appellavi. Ea cum non occurrat apud ullum ex Scriptoribus Botanicis, quos mihi videre contigit, digna visa est qua describatur.
Ex radice longâ lignosà per terram serpente assurgit caulis Cubitalis ut plurimùm altitudinis, quandoque majoris , aliquando minoris, qui in tenues ramos se diffundit, spinis densissìmis ab ipsâ radice usque ad plantae summitatem undique armatus. Rami de se protrudunt folia Pimpinellae vulgaris foliis, tum figura, tum quantitate & colore incisurisque in margine levibus, simillima; inter que ex pediculo suo calyx propender, quo aperto exerit e flos simplex tinctus rubedine varia, in quibusdam saturatiore, in aliis dilutiore, in omnibus virgulis albis pulchrè distinctâ. Cui deciduo succedit pomum coloris atro-rubentis, rotundius & minus Cynorrhodi vulgaris pomis, id lanugine quadam & seminibus oblongo-rotundis, & eх infernâ parte magis compressìs , &, ex basi latiore, cordis effìgie in conum definentibus repletum. Flos eximium odorem de se fundit, quâ pollet tenuitate, penetrantem. Foliis saepe adnascuntur pilulae rubro-pallescentes, nunc rotundae, nunc oblongae, cavitate quadam cujusdam Insecti nidulo donatae.
Nascitur in colle quodam Praedii nostri Сiphiani Austro obverso, declivi admodum, cautibus squalido, nec alibi, quod sciam, conspicitur.
Perennis est planta. In hortos translata tum floris variegationem, tum suavissimum odorem conservat. Eam Sapphicis Versibus fusè descripti & vires ejus enarravi in Ode quadam , quae ad hujus libri calcem habetur.
https://books.google.com/books?id=lLJSAAAAcAAJ&dq=Robert%20Sibbald&pg=RA1-PA46#v=onepage&q&f=false
Ode de Rosa Ciphiana is on pp. 61-62
The illustration does not look much like 'Picta'.
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#5 of 8 posted
25 JAN 17 by
jedmar
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In which month are they mentioned?
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They are not mentioned by month but in the "systemic catalogue" at the back of the book. There are only a few vague descriptions regarding rose cultivation in the main body of the book.
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#7 of 8 posted
25 JAN 17 by
jedmar
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-797
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is there any special care you would suggest i just bought 7 of these woosii rose they are little how fast to they grow and split? how often should i watter them. is there anything extra i should know about them i am mainily planing them to get a privacy fence i have them about 9 1/2 feet apart should i plant more inbetween or let them spead to fill in the gaps? any other suggestions would be nice. thands for your help
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rosa woodsii fendleri only requires the basic care you would give any orse. Just make sure that it is well water when you plant it and try not to let it get dry throughout the summer. Then it will be fine on its own. They grow quickly and also are known to really sucker. In ideal conditions the plants should grow to about 6 feet tall and 5 feet wide. This rose will put up canes that will start to bend over at the top. They may even touch the ground with the weight of the rose hips.
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