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"Camnethan Cherry Red" rose Reviews & Comments
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I have added ‘Georges Farber’ 1890 to the list of possibles. Apart from one mention of light green leaves, there seem to be many similarities to “Camnethan Cherry Red”.
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4 MAY 20 by
 HubertG
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I've sometimes wondered about Nabonnand's 1888 'Mme Therese Deschamps' especially with the early descriptions of a whitish reverse and erect panicles. However, I can't find it in any early Australian references.
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And now, thanks to photos from Jocelen Janon on July 11, I have added ‘Général Labutère‘ to the list of possibles.[Later edit: ….and deleted it. Refer that rose’s comments]
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Hello,
Does anyone know if this rose is available in the U.S.? Does it go by another name in the U.S.? Thank you.
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“Camnethan Cherry Red” is an Australian foundling rose and is not available in the U.S. under this name.
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Thank you. Maybe it is found here too under a different name?
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The closest equivalent in the US would be the rose sold as Princesse de Sagan.
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Thank you. I appreciate your responses
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HMFUSR,
When I read your comments of how you are grateful for its existence and thank it 50 times a day, I think it must be so special so I went to get one. But I was reading the comments under the Beauty of Rosewarh. I think that rose is special too. So now I found out this is the name of the rose that you wrote about, and I want to get one especially with your comment on how the fragrance is. I am into growing rose for their fragrance. I remember when I was a child in Vietnam, the roses had such delightful, fresh, and light fragrance just like how you described the fragrance of this rose. I hope to be able to buy this rose and grow it to see it for myself. Thank you for your description of this rose.
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Has anyone considered 'Beauty of Rosemawr' as a possible match? Some of the photos look similar to me... especially buds, flowers and habit; hard to compare foliage from the photos at HMF...
There isn't a whole lot of info about this foundling on its description page... is it fragrant?, etc.
Thanks,
Virginia
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I have added the contenders to the Notes on the main page. These are the roses that I have considered in the past and are only one person's opinions. Other opinions are difficult to glean, but if anyone has any clues to offer, they would be most welcome and we will change the page accordingly.
I'll get to work and add a few botanical details.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I grow both roses and they are definitely not the same.
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Does your 'Beauty of Rosemawr' look like the one hmfusr has posted so many photos of? I wonder if there might be more than one rose in commerce as 'BoR'... at least in Australia. I did hear from someone in the U.S. who ordered 'BoR' years ago and got Ragged Robin (which I think is AKA Gloire des Rosomanes') instead, but that could have just been an isolated shipping error.
Thanks,
Virginia
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I see what you mean Virginia.
No - my 'Beauty of Rosemawr' doesn't look like the lovely rose in hmfusr's photos - and yes! that rose looks a lot like "Camnethan Cherry Red".
The rose I grow under the name 'Beauty of Rosemawr' was from Peter Ellis who obtained the budwood from Ruston's Roses a few years ago.
It's a fairly compact, overly prickly shrub that produces very generous inflorescences and repeats rapidly.
In my conditions, the blooms tend to be smaller and have many more petals than "Camnethan Cherry Red". It's generous and showy.
Our plant of "Camnethan Cherry Red" is more sparse and airy in habit and is far less prickly, though it may be more compact on its own roots or on a different understock as roses budded onto Fortuniana tend to be more stretched.
Hideous hot weather at the moment and any blooms are crispy and at their summer extreme. I'll take some photos showing my two side by side asap and share them here.
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4 OCT 18 by
Smtysm
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My plant is also very sparse, and tall. Leaves smallish, tender/soft. It and Titian along with Lorraine Lee are my champion winter bloomers.
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I'll try to upload some comparative photos of what we grow as "Camnethan Cherry Red" and 'Beauty of Rosemawr' here and add some to their sites.
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Despite the horrible heat, your 'BoR' looks fetching; the "CCR" also looks pretty good, though it doesn't seem to be a bloom with much structure, as you say.
Clearly not the same rose, and while I was wondering about hmfusr's plant, I don't know if it is 'CCR' or 'Gloire de Rosomanes', or (as seems likely) something else. I wish I knew- it looks- and sounds- like a good rose.
Virginia
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