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'Neil Diamond' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 101-947
most recent 8 APR 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 4 JUL 17 by GardenGlimpses
Striped roses have been around forever, but finally here we have one that can compare to the top tier of hybrid teas. The blooms are large and durable enough that they can hold their own with Mister Lincoln or Maria Callas...no fleeting little weak novelty here. The bloom is well spiraled symmetrical modern hybrid tea for the first half of it life, then changes to a full pillowy confection like an old school English Rose...you sort of get the best of both worlds, and it does both forms quite well and is attractive in all stages. There fair amount of variation in the pinkish-red to white proportions, the mutability of both color and form makes it ever fascinating. The fragrance is truly extraordinary, by that I mean NOT like its relative Scentimental ('good, nice') but like Fragrant Cloud ('WOW! Really?!') It is one of those deep, powerful scents rushes through your nose and perfumes head and makes you a bit dizzy (think Double Delight, Mme Isaac, and again , Fragrant Cloud). It's a pure damask nothing-but-true-rose scent, almost unbelievably strong, like there's a liquid perfume center hiding under all those crazy striped petals.
The plant is generous, tall and vigorous, a bit too bolt upright, might get a little blackspot, but the faults are really negligible for all that it offers..It reminds me a bit of Double Delight, a unique yet high-quality changeling with excellent garden performance and exceptional scent.

So why did Weeks drop it like a turkey carcass onto the rose buying public? It was introduced with very little fanfare. Does anyone really buy a rose because it was named after a 70's era monotone crooner? I understand that it is third in a line of similarly colored striped roses after Scentimental and Rock n Roll, but this one takes it to another level. I blame poor marketing if this rose doesn't become a mainstay! It could stand on its scent alone like a Perfume Delight or Fragrant Cloud, I would have named this one 'Wild Perfume'.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 JUL 17 by GardenGlimpses
I totally agree! I'd like the rose to be named for its own qualities, not pinned to a particular person. (I love the names Scentimental and Rock n Roll...both very descriptive of special qualities possessed by this line of Weeks roses). Those two varieties came first and took the better names, while this rose, the crowning achievement of the lot, was stuck with garish 70's Liberace. It's even worse when it's a person with a particular political or religious affiliation, and still more unplatable that so many are the same religious/political bent. I bet the next politician's namesake will be a Huuuge rose.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 20 OCT 19 by heliotrope42
Running into Neil Diamond at the airport... "Hey, aren't you that 70's era monotone crooner?"

Now, "Jimi Hendrix", though, there is a name that could be used if the rose was cool enuf. Maybe a Purple/Yellow stripe.
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Reply #4 of 3 posted 8 APR 22 by Michael Garhart
For me, I passed on seeing this rose in local gardens for several reasons.

1. It has the "Roller Coaster curse", which is elongated canes for no sane reason. I had hoped a generation beyond Rock and Roll would fix this. It fixed the wispiness, but not the needless elongation. It and its sister, 'Donald Duck' has plagued many roses, including 'Oranges and Lemons', 'Papageno', and so on.

2. The tone of pink is really uninteresting. I found it jarring.

3. Black spot. It strips naked by July.
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Discussion id : 121-279
most recent 11 DEC 21 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 MAY 20 by ParisRoseLady
Available from - J.W. Jung Seed Co.
www.jungseed.com
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 11 DEC 21 by sandsock (PNW 8a)
Also High Country Roses
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Discussion id : 120-293
most recent 21 FEB 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 FEB 20 by gavinj
Neil Diamond 2018 ARS Fragrance award per ARS American Rose Magazine Jan/Feb 2020 pg 71. I assume it is the James Alexander Gamble Award, however, it is not listed in the 2020 American Rose Society Handbook.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 21 FEB 20 by jedmar
The award is also not (no longer?) listed on the website of the ARS
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Discussion id : 119-875
most recent 21 JAN 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 JAN 20 by steve fritz
A beautiful heavily scented flower not produced in abundance atop a disease prone plant.

It is fertile as both a seed and pollen parent.
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