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Westerland  rose photo courtesy of member Jay-Jay
Discussion id : 111-437
most recent 14 JUN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 JUN by Jay-Jay
Alas, this rose is no more due to poor green-management of the city and the people that do the job.
It was whacked in full bloom, just like its companions (2X Berberis verruculosa and a thornless Multiflora seedling the latter blooming too as in: ).
Reply #1 of 10 posted 12 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
How destructive, what a waste, very sad! Ignorant.
Reply #2 of 10 posted 12 JUN by Jay-Jay
Thanks Andrew, for the "Heads-Up".
And it was very obviously our plot:
Reply #3 of 10 posted 12 JUN by Patricia Routley
You have photograhed that rose many times over the years and must have loved it well. What I don't understand is that it was in full bloom. My sympathies Jay-Jay.
It is difficult with ever-changing council people. You can tell one bloke, but then new dimwit employees come along and start whacking. Years ago Pat Toolan in South Australia had the same experience with a whole row of old roses on a roadside and many of them could not be saved. She started jumping up and down to the council and made such an impact that these days she oversees a garden for old roses on Council land which she helped to make (see The Barossa Old Rose Repository). As well, she managed to get the Council to help rescue an old 'Lady Hillingdon' and replant it almost outside the Council's front door. That does take a special sort of person, but education seems to be the key. Perhaps asking them to let you know of any old rose (you would have to keep at it) so that you may rescue it beforehand, might instill an awareness in council employees that roses are special.
Reply #4 of 10 posted 12 JUN by Jay-Jay
Hi Patricia,
Thank You too. I'll take a look at the garden, You mention. But alas this city doesn't cherish its roses: Ground covering rose-beds in full bloom are flail-mown and a bed of Topaz Jewel, that I photographed in the past has disappeared completely, like more rose-beds did in exchange for short-mown grass....
And they are not at all interested in (or open minded for) criticism or free advise.

It was a nitwit as for knowledge of plants and a bit disabled as for intelligence, that performed the "PRUNING" as he mentioned it... and HE apologized for that and explained his motivation for his deed. It was the second time, that that person whacked things on our plot to almost ground-level. That time it was the complete Berberis verruculosa hedge.
But the one, who should have attended and guided him, did not quite understand the fuzz that I made and my sorrow. He only was interested in meters, that ought to be cleared from "green mess".
They will ask the insurance to compensate... But under a big oak, it will take years, before it will look like something again... That was the second damage this year in our garden, caused by the city.

But there are worse things to experience... And this might create new opportunities.
PS: The Westerlands' offspring is thriving and this year even very double-ones are starting to bloom.
And yes, soon I'll rustle (part of) a yellow Spinosissima seedling. (10x8m)
Reply #5 of 10 posted 13 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
BTW Jay-Jay, I am getting untold pleasure from 'Erinnerung an Brod' which is largely down to your enthusiasm that I bought this rose. The best 50 euros I ever spent, Thank you.
Reply #6 of 10 posted 13 JUN by Jay-Jay
€ 50!!! Wow what a price... but rewarding, I read. This year it was just a short period of bloom, because of the high temps and dry weather.
Reply #7 of 10 posted 13 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
Yes, €50, indeed, wow. I had to buy it from Germany and do a money transfer at my bank. I have to say my experience of it being over quickly differs from yours. The first flowers started opening about two weeks ago and there is still two thirds left to flower. The first few flowers were proliferated and I was worried they would all be, 'Variegata di Bologna' was the same and 'Russelliana' was very bad as well. It has been very hot and dry here. We have not had any proper rain for almost a month and temperatures as high as 25C. Some of the roses are gone in two days but 'Erinnerung an Brod' lasts almost a week. I am extremely pleased with this rose.
Reply #8 of 10 posted 13 JUN by Jay-Jay
Glad to hear so!
Reply #9 of 10 posted 14 JUN by billy teabag
My sympathies too Jay-Jay. So sad to lose these beautiful plants. It beggars belief that others are blind to the value of things.
Reply #10 of 10 posted 14 JUN by Jay-Jay
Thank You Billy!
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