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Cyrus  rose photo courtesy of Maurice REYBAUD
Discussion id : 105-409
most recent 10 SEP 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 SEP 17 by Give me caffeine
Thank you for these photos. An absolutely fascinating rose. I think I may have to try it.
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Reply #1 of 12 posted 7 SEP 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Amazing, like an Hibiscus.
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Margaret Furness
Funny - not depreciating the achievements of those who pioneered these crosses, but if you cross a rose with something that isn't a rose, what do you get? Something that doesn't look like a rose.
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Reply #3 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Give me caffeine
What makes you think it was crossed with something that wasn't a rose? Hulthemia persica is just an outdated synonym for Rosa persica.
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Reply #4 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Maurice REYBAUD
Oui, Cyrus est un joli Rosier !!
Maurice
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Margaret Furness
Thank you, I wasn't aware of that. People still call these roses hulthemia hybrids.
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Reply #6 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Andrew from Dolton
J’ai vu j’ai écrit sous la forme x Hulthemosa

I have seen it written as x Hulthemosa
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Give me caffeine
It used be in a separate genus, but then the botanists decided it was a rose after all.

So does it look like a rose now?
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Andrew from Dolton
I think x Hulthemosa is the Latin name for the bigenetic hybrid between Hulthemia and Rosa.
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Reply #9 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Give me caffeine
Hulthemia doesn't exist anymore - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_persica

"Rosa persica is an anomalous species of rose that at one time was placed in a separate genus Hulthemia"

That classification is obsolete, at least to botanists.
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Reply #10 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Yes, the lumpers made Hulthemia part of Rosa.
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Reply #12 of 12 posted 10 SEP 17 by jedmar
I think these crosses would not have succeeded if Hulthemia were not Rosa. Otherwise, I would like to have the Rosa x tulipa in spring!
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 8 SEP 17 by Margaret Furness
See reply number 1.
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