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"Agnes Smith"  rose photo courtesy of member HubertG
Discussion id : 112-975
most recent 12 SEP 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 SEP 18 by scvirginia
Your bloom looks a lot like the rose I got from Antique Rose Emporium as 'Mrs. Bosanquet':
rose received as 'Mrs Bosanquet' from ARE
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Reply #1 of 12 posted 11 SEP 18 by Margaret Furness
If Mistress Bosanquet is still in Aus, it has lost its name. And lent it to Homere on occasion.
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 11 SEP 18 by scvirginia
I think this is not the original Mrs. Bosanquet, which is described as being cream, pale flesh or blush. It is a pretty rose, but rather pink to be Mistriss B.

I did contact ARE to see if the rose was sent in error, but they said this is what they sell as 'Mrs. Bosanquet'.

Virginia
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Reply #3 of 12 posted 11 SEP 18 by HubertG
The photos of Mrs Bosanquet look rather creamy pink which Agnes Smith isn't.
What is interesting is that there are photos of the unopened buds under both roses here, and although one is more bristly, they are both very similarly shaped.
The early spring flowers on Agnes are only semi double and quite cupped at the moment.
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Reply #4 of 12 posted 11 SEP 18 by scvirginia
Yes, the photos and old references do not "fit" the bright pink rose I received as Mrs. B. I believe she is another rose altogether, but I don't recognize her.

She does resemble your "Agnes", I think...

Virginia
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 11 SEP 18 by HubertG
Virginia, 'Agnes Smith' has a very distinct fragrance for me. Impossible to describe but it has a warm 'airy' scent which is tea rose but also a little of some other group too. How does yours smell?
I had speculated that Agnes might be 'Maud Little' (Tea x Bourbon) solely because it reminded me of 'Comtesse de Labarthe' in shape and a bit in fragrance, so I find it interesting that your rose that looks like Agnes was sold as a Boubon-China, and that the bud shape is so similar between Mrs B and Agnes.
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Reply #6 of 12 posted 11 SEP 18 by scvirginia
Did someone say buds?!

Now that I know how to add photos, I'll share the ones I have of my rose's buds:
'Mrs Bosanquet'? bud

and:
'Mrs Bosanquet'? pink bud

Cheers!
Virginia
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 11 SEP 18 by Patricia Routley
For me, "Agnes Smith" is lightly double, always has gracefully drooping blooms, elongated buds and the sepals extend way up beyond the bud.
Perhaps Virginia, if there is a doubt about the 'Mrs. Bosanquet' in commerce, your very clear photos would be of value in that file.
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 12 SEP 18 by HubertG
Virginia, the buds and even the leaves of your rose don't quite look the same as "Agnes Smith"
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Reply #9 of 12 posted 12 SEP 18 by scvirginia
Well, looking at the rather cupped blooms in some of the photos, I have to agree that they aren't the same. Not sure what either of us have, aside from pretty pink roses...

Thanks for having a look, though.
Virginia
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Reply #10 of 12 posted 12 SEP 18 by scvirginia
Patricia, yes, I am doubtful that Mrs. B. should be as pink as my rose is. And according to Jeri Jennings, the roses in commerce (in the US) as Mrs Bosanquet, and actually look the part... are from a cemetery in California, so their provenance is also dicey.
https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4802370/a-medium-sized-rant#n=56

Virginia
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 12 SEP 18 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Virginia. Stay safe.
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Reply #12 of 12 posted 12 SEP 18 by scvirginia
Thanks, Patricia.
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