HelpMeFind Roses, Clematis and Peonies
Roses, Clematis and Peonies
and everything gardening related.
Member GardenPlants GrownPhotosCommentsListing
Admin
 
Indian Hill
Discussion id : 124-534
most recent 27 DEC 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 DEC 20 by jfortanascio
Hi! I hope that all is well. I was wondering if you are still growing the rose 'Stanwell Perpetual?' I would love to know what you think about the rose 'Stanwell Perpetual' and if you know of any plants still on Cape Cod. I've been to Woods Hole many times, but that was before I started paying attention to roses. Thanks in advance for your time! Have a great day! Best, Justin
REPLY
Reply #1 of 5 posted 25 DEC 20 by Palustris
I lost 'Stanwell Perpetual' several years ago and have not had the chance to replace it yet. It is a very reliable rose that does repeat occasionally and doesn't get more than about 4' tall.

Years ago I found many old roses on Cape Cod when traveling around the old roads. However, almost all have been replaced now with variations of the 'Knockout' roses. It is very disappointing, but there are still many plants of 'Excelsa' and 'Dorothy Perkins' that emerge around July 4th. I collected many ramblers over the years, but I am sorry I didn't save more of the shrub and OGRs when I had the opportunity.

Best holiday wishes,
Sandy
REPLY
Reply #2 of 5 posted 25 DEC 20 by Palustris
I see you are in MA. If you come down to the Cape in the Spring, I would be happy to give you a 'Maid Marion' as I have many clones in pots waiting for a permanent home. I also have several 'Complicata' in pots waiting for a spot in the yard. I would be happy to trade it for another OGR.

Best,
Sandy
REPLY
Reply #3 of 5 posted 26 DEC 20 by jfortanascio
Thank you, Sandy! Happy holidays to you too! Thanks for getting back to me about your 'Stanwell Perpetual.' I've asked a couple other gardeners too and sent an email to the Botanic Gardens and Arboretums to see if they still have a plant. The Arnold Arboretum says their plant is from 1924, but they can't find it and think it is probably dead. I did order two from Greenmantle this year.

I'll definitely message you if I can make over to the Cape this spring with the cuttings I have. 'Complicata' is on my list to try to send up a small tree; I read that the blooms are maybe as big as 5" across. And now that you mention 'Dorothy Perkins' and 'Excelsa' I think the rose that came with my house I've been calling '7 Sisters' is maybe one of those two. Anyway, things to keep my occupied this winter!

Best,
Justin
REPLY
Reply #4 of 5 posted 26 DEC 20 by Palustris
I lived in Roslindale for over a decade only a mile or so from the Arnold Arboretum and visited about once a week. The Bradly Rosaceous Collection is quite extensive, but there is (or was 20 years ago) a focus on species roses and species hybrids.

You mention the nursery Greenmantle which is amusing since 'Greenmantle' at the Arnold Arboretum completely changed my understanding of what a rose could be. There is a thicket of 'Greenmantle' donated my Malcolm Lowe of Nashua that amazed me. The grand and bold eight foot plants with their thick green canes and wicked thorns inspired me to head up to Nashua to visit Mr. Lowe.

So my foray into shrub and species roses started there at the Arnold Arboretum and was launched by my purchases from Malcom 25 years ago. 'Complicata' was one of those roses along with 'Greenmantle' and several others
REPLY
Reply #5 of 5 posted 27 DEC 20 by jfortanascio
The folks at Greemantle Nursery must love it too. I haven't tried a sweet brier yet, but I'm really interested in the scented foliage. I read about Lowe Roses, legendary. He had quite a nursery and I would have loved to visit. It seems that a lot of the old rose nurseries closed up shop in the early/ mid 2000s.

FYI - I did find a 'Stanwell Perpetual' at The National Arboretum’s ABE website. It says they have a living plant - it shows ‘Stanwell Perpetual’ planted with phlox paniculata, R. spinosissima ‘Repens,’ Rosa ‘Dupontii,’ Rosa woodsii, and Rosa carolina ‘plena.’
REPLY
© 2024 HelpMeFind.com