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2 JAN 15 by
styrax
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The contrast in vigor is spectacular :P Disturbing, isn't it? The budded one looks healthier than Heirloom, while the own-root looks as if it had no roots.
The "old" rose breeders budded the seedlings early- I wonder of McGredy knew how much of a wimp it really was.
Is the greenhouse yours?
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They likely never even thought about how anything ever performed own root. Everything was budded, so it never mattered. The whole world-wide industry model required budding roses. Who cared? No, this was at Sequoia Nursery about ten years ago, around 2005-ish.
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21 JUL 18 by
 jmile
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One of my fellow rose friends has an anomaly in a hardy Grey Pearl. She said that for the first three years or maybe more she faithfully did not allow it to flower. Now it is a healthy normal looking rose plant. I will ask her if it is own rooted etc. I would like to try it on Fortuniana. I have had good results with finicky roses by grafting them onto Fortuniana.
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I had it for years on fortuniana. I budded it myself. Did great. Check out my photos.
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I have two, one on Fortuniana and one on Pink Clouds. These are the plants supplying the bud wood for Wisconsin Roses to bud.
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Kim, you're getting pretty good at those photo editing tools!
Amazing they are almost identical.
The one on fortuniana would thrive here and the one on Pink Clouds would just die, IF it were put in the native soil.
In your climate and soil conditions either seem to work as well.
My Grey Pearl on fort. eventually snapped off at the bud union quite unexpectedly. I think it was an accident of some kind. It was fun while it lasted!
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Thanks, Robert. "Good"? Probably not. That was an easy thing to do and simple enough for "blue hair logic". The Pink Clouds plant out performs the Fortuniana one here until the "heat" begins, then the Fortuniana roots start to push. Pink Clouds doesn't require the heat Fortuniana does, nor the amount of water. I have virus indexed Fortuniana and Pink Clouds has now officially been tested and determined from of Apple Mosaic and Prunus Necrotic Ringspot Virus, and Pink Clouds roots like Bermuda grass and allows budding most of the year. I don't have any issues keeping it going as everything is potted, so they all receive the same soil and water.
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