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19 DEC 10 by
meltemi
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Thanks Margarita :-) You have such a lovely garden!
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Great shot with a bloom and buds.
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28 FEB 10 by
meltemi
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Actually pretty much dark.
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Gronloof Stauden und Rosen Nursery says Prince Frédéric, Cora and La Negresse are the same rose. Is that right?
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Actually I have no idea. It is labelled as this in the Göteborg Rosarium.
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18 FEB 10 by
meltemi
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I belive your photo is right. My question is, how this three roses (Prince Frédéric, Cora and La Negresse) could be the same rose? They sent me this link http://www.stauden-und-rosen.de/index.php?seite=vergleich&id=53. Actually I don't understand a word of German... I don't know about which Cora (gallica) are talking about: Savoureux 1885 or Lecomte ante 1828?
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19 FEB 10 by
 jedmar
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According to "La Rose de France" by François Joyaux, 'Cora' was bred by Lecomte in 1827. His nursery was later taken over by Savoureux, so that both 'Cora's are the same.
On the website of "stauden-und-rosen", she is comparing various purple-coloured roses, without making a statement that thea are the same:
http://www.stauden-und-rosen.de/index.php?seite=vergleich&id=25
The 'La Négresse' shown here is not the synonym of 'Perle von Weissenstein', but the Damask by Vibert. As usual with many OGR's, this attribution is not 100% certain.
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18 FEB 10 by
jedmar
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Possibly. The original 'Prince Frédéric' is supposed to have been red.
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Please, can anyone shed further light on this ? This is where HMF's world-wide access should make a difference.
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19 FEB 10 by
meltemi
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From the book Rosa Gallica by Szanne Verrier:
'Cora' (Sauvoureux ante 1885) Clusters of small, well-formed double blossoms of rich velvety violet-purple. The bases of the petals pale to white. Moderate erect growth.
'La Nègresse' [synon. 'Pearl of Weisenstein', 'Perle de Veissenstein'] (Schwarzkopf 1773) Dusky mauve blossoms with a deeper purplish center. The name refers to the early garden in Kassel, Germany. On introduction into France, the rose was renamed 'La Négresse'.
'Prince Frédéric' (Parmentier 1840) Large, very double, fragrant, brillant crimson flowers on a tall shrub.
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Available from - Il Giardino dell Rose
ilgiardinodellerose.it
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