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Initial post 18 JAN 12 by goncmg
Just have to vent here: WHAT IS THE APPEAL? Single pink roses are a dime a dozen, strong or not, delicate or dainty or not. I have heard the maroon/purple stamens/anthers are a hugely recessive trait which ostensibly sets this one somewhat apart, but even that being said, this one has surely appeared 50,000 times and more over in the seed bed of every professional and every amateur hybridizer........nothing about this rose appeals to me...........this is all personal. If single pinks ring your bell, well, this somehow has been your only choice for over 80 years with no end in sight................
Reply #1 of 3 posted 18 JAN 12 by Jon_in_Wessex
True - there is no accounting for good taste :)
Reply #2 of 3 posted 18 JAN 12 by Landperson
I find Dainty Bess to be breathtakingly, heartbreakingly beautiful.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 21 APR 15 by Salix
Well, it is a fabulous shade of pink, the stamens re gorgeous, and it is a magnificantly formed single, as singles go. That being said, I don't grow it :P

most recent 2 DEC 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 2 DEC 13 by Puns 'n' Roses
Thank you so much for this photo! This is stunning. I've never seen anything like it.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 DEC 13 by Jon_in_Wessex
You are very welcome!
most recent 5 NOV 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 3 NOV 13 by Margaret Furness
Your rose fits the description of carmine-pink edges. Would you look at my photos scattered through the Lady Waterlow file, and comment on whether you think ours is correct, please?
Reply #1 of 4 posted 3 NOV 13 by Jon_in_Wessex
Hello Margaret. I agree that your rose seems too apricot-y - a shade that mine never has. At most it is a bit salmony at the base. The foliage also feels wrong - leaves on mine are noticeably large, rather thin, not very shiny, quite wavy, not typically HT'ish. Several other photos on the page seem much too full and uniformly coloured. Mine was budded from Graham Thomas's plant, and is the one commonly seen in the UK. I don't have a note of where Mr Thomas obtained it, other than it being part of his original collection. I wouldn't dream of commenting on the likely correctness of his attribution!

Best wishes
Reply #2 of 4 posted 3 NOV 13 by Margaret Furness
Thank you! I won't be popular with the people who collected it for us, from an old wall in the former colonial penal station at Pt Arthur. I've attached another photo, showing prickles. Also the ones I've removed from the Lady Waterlow file.
Looking at the photos on the hmf file, I'd think there were at least two roses using the name, apart from ours!
Reply #3 of 4 posted 4 NOV 13 by Patricia Routley
Margaret, I would look across the ditch for help on 'Lady Waterlow'. I have an enduring memory of seeing a 'Lady Waterlow' at Sir Miles Warren's home 'Ohinetahi, near Christchurch, New Zealand on Nov 14, 2000. From that one sight of the rose, I have always wanted it my garden, but it never came my way unfortunately. I made no notes that day, but my memory tells me it was similar to the photos of 'Lady Waterlow' that AmiRoses has contributed.

I also saw another example at the ex home of Mrs. Janice Wallis in Wanaka on Nov 18, 2000. My notes on that day were: " 'Lady Waterlow'? yellow in the base and pink on the edge of the petals, big leaves, climbing up a tree."

I saw it again at the superb Jessie Calder garden where I made the beginner's-botany notes "pink, yellow in the base. the leaves are much wider at the pedicel end and triangle-shaped". (Well - I knew what I meant, then!)
Reply #4 of 4 posted 5 NOV 13 by Margaret Furness
I'm told it was the rose that everyone at the Sangerhausen conference wanted to plant. Let's hope that many people who saw it or grow it will contribute photos, including of buds and prickles. And hips if any.
most recent 7 MAR 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 MAR 13 by Pamela Temple
I found my way over here today and felt like it was time for another comment. I truly love your garden Jon. To me it is all a garden should be.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 6 MAR 13 by Patricia Routley
Jon’s garden photo of the excavation reiterates to me that alkaline gardens can really grow beautiful roses.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 7 MAR 13 by Jon_in_Wessex
Yes, 'gardening on chalk' is often written about in English books and I hoped that photo would explain what it means. There is a garden a few miles down the valley called Mottisfont that does it much better.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 7 MAR 13 by Jon_in_Wessex
Well, that's so nice to hear in this cold and wet Spring! May have to add a few more pictures in that case!
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