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Kathy Strong
most recent 30 SEP HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 SEP by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Apparently being renamed as "Itsy Ritzy Jazzed Yellow"

most recent 15 SEP SHOW ALL
Initial post 10 SEP by Kathy Strong
Rose Listing Omission



New! Celestine grows large clusters of deep pink blooms. They are classic in form and vibrant in colour. This tidy bush grows to be 2' - 2.5' in height and repeat blooms with ease. Propagated on hardy Rosa Multiflora rootstock. All roses have been grown and tended in our family-owned rose nursery.

Rose Details
Rose name:Celestine
Type:Floribunda rose
Fragrance:Scented rose
Rose color:Medium Pink
Breeder:Jalbert, 2018
Height:2' - 2.5' *
Shrub form:Upright
Bloom size:Medium
Petal count:Full
Hardy:5b - 9d *
Repeat bloomer

* The heights & zones are guidelines only. Roses & fruit trees grow differently in different zones, and require proper winter protection accordingly.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 12 SEP by Patricia Routley
Kathy - I have Private Messaged Brad for the code name. Not sure if it is JALcherry which we have listed without a name.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 15 SEP by Patricia Routley
Hi Kathy, 'Celestine' JALlipstick added at last. Thanks.
most recent 10 SEP HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 SEP by jmile
This rose was sent to me as an own root rose that was part of the J&P test panel rose group. Later I got a bare root rose from the test panel with the same name but a different rose. The own root rose is identical to Crescendo in every way. The bare root rose is similar but different .
Reply #1 of 3 posted 10 SEP by Patricia Routley
Re your own-root rose. The photo that accompanied the Australian bronze medal award in 2013 for '02-01155' does look similar to 'Crescendo' (hybrid tea, Zary 2010) JACgemze. It seems that '02-01155' should be merged with 'Crescendo' (hybrid tea, Zary 2010)?

I cannot comment on your bare-rooted rose, but HelpMeFind lists three 'Crescendo's.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 10 SEP by jmile
J&P sent out small own root test panel roses in the Fall. I then got bare root test panel roses in the Spring. The two sets of the same test panel roses were different roses. I have the fall version of 02-0155 planted in the middle of two J&P Crescendo roses that I purchased later. There is no difference. J& P just made a mistake and sent out the wrong roses in the Fall shipment.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 10 SEP by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Yeah, but the test panels came out during the Zary's reign at J & P, and having gotten that same rose, I once asked Deb whether that test rose could be Crescendo, and she went back to her records and looked, and the word came back that Crescendo was never in the test panel. So, that test panel rose is probably closely related, but not exact.
most recent 7 SEP SHOW ALL
Initial post 7 SEP 16 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
Disappointing in public garden here in hot, humid SE Virginia. Poor bloom, lot of dieback despite mild winter, and extensive defoliation. It was chosen for an organic rose garden; we have yet to find a really good white.
Reply #1 of 7 posted 7 SEP 16 by Give me caffeine
Which ones have you tried?
Reply #2 of 7 posted 8 SEP 16 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
We have tried Flower Carpet White, Rugosa Blanc Double de Coubert, and Marie Daly (blush). I need to correct myself and say that Lions Rose (Lions Fairy Tale) is highly satisfactory; but with an apricot blush in the center the effect is more cream colored than pure white. Spice is wonderfully healthy and an almost continuous bloomer but again, not pure white.
Souvenir de St. Ann's has proven very shade tolerant; rebloom is only fair. We have lost some SDSA to freeze damage. (We also lost an entire group of Mystic Beauty which is a very pale pink, like SDLM)
The current design doesn't allow room for Darlow's Enigma or Ducher, both of which are a very pure white.
The gazebo in the center of the garden provides a pop of pure white; it is surrounded by Peach Drift. It's used for weddings so there are no climbers on it, to provide good sight lines all round.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 8 SEP 16 by Give me caffeine
Pascali is supposed to be bulletproof, if you can live with the lack of scent.

I'm currently trying White Ensign in the subtropics. It's looking promising, but I haven't had it long enough to give good feedback.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 9 SEP 16 by Nastarana
Have you considered 'White Medilland'?, which is pure white and, in VA, should be an almost continuous bloomer?
Reply #5 of 7 posted 15 APR 17 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
We are looking for a bushy chest-high shrub which is highly blackspot resistant. Currently we are considering the Kordes floribunda 'Polar Express'. Fortunately ARE has it. I am hoping to see Polar Express in a public garden somewhere.
MK was a disaster for us and we have at least eight of them in a very prominent position.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 7 SEP by Michael Garhart
My favorite so far is Lullaby, if you can get it. Mine is growing fine next to a pine tree, which nothing else thrives next to lol.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 7 SEP by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
I also like Lullaby, but if you want big, like big enough for a pergola, then go with Darlow's Enigma -- It's excellent. But it does set hips and therefore best blooming will be if someone takes off the hips occasionally.
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