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Kathy Strong
most recent 26 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 JAN by Kathy Strong
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Angelic Veil

Aka WEKselyan

https://www.brecks.com/product/angelic-veil-hybrid-tea-rose

Now, isn’t that a horrid name!
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 26 JAN by Lee H.
Not even in the same league as Happy Butt, or BougainFeelYa. :-(
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most recent 26 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 JAN by Kathy Strong
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In Love Again

Aka WEKamyldroper

https://www.brecks.com/product/in-love-again-hybrid-tea-rose
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most recent 17 DEC SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 20 SEP 11 by Kathy Strong
To be marketed by florists in the U.S. and Canada starting in November 2011. See,
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-worlds-first-blue-rose---blue-rose-applause-129790278.html
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 21 SEP 11 by Slugger15
100% blue pigmented petals, huh? I giggled a bit when I looked at the picture. Doesn't look any bluer to me than Neptune, Blue Girl, or Angel Face. They describe it as having a sweet smell, but methinks I smell something else going on.....
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 23 FEB 14 by Michael Garhart
I am more impressed with Japan's other mauve roses, which tend to look very ghost-like and romantic, than I am with this rose. It looks so harsh and ... "eh."
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 28 APR 17 by Plazbo
Personally I'd be interested to see what breeders could do with it, there's potential there to get far bluer than possible currently.

On the flip side though, given they know a large part of the issue is PH you'd think they'd do a bunch of testing to see if there are cultivars with a more appropriate PH and then either try the procedure again or cross with it rather than just leave it at a point that's already been achieved (or beaten). It's lack of marketting makes me suspicious though.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 3 MAY 19 by CybeRose
Breed Sci. 2018 Jan; 68(1): 79–87.
Published online 2018 Feb 17.
Recent advances in the research and development of blue flowers
Naonobu Noda*

"... the research group of Suntory and Florigene developed blue roses by genetic engineering (Katsumoto et al. 2007). Roses that have petals with a high flavonol content and relatively high pH—traits that are considered to be suitable for blue color development—were selected for gene introduction. Among various F3′5′H genes, the pansy F3′5′H gene was found to be effective for producing delphinidin-based anthocyanins in roses. In addition, a Torenia gene encoding anthocyanin 5-aromatic acyltransferase was introduced with pansy F3′5′H, which enabled acylation of anthocyanin with an aromatic organic acid, and the world’s first blue rose, Suntory blue rose Applause was created."

Maybe it is more impressive in person. Otherwise, I think I'd prefer to work with cultivars that are not patented inside as well as out.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 4 MAY 19 by jedmar
With all the work they did, it is still not "blue" as claimed
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 17 DEC by Michael Garhart
Suntory is a MASSIVE corporation in Japan. It is plausible that this was more about proof of concept (genetic manipulation) for other parts of their industry, their stocks, and whatever else they were trying to boost at the time.
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most recent 6 DEC SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 NOV 16 by JM3
This is no longer for sale in the US, buy I'm willing to pay for a cutting. Does it perform reasonably on its own roots?
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 3 DEC by Michael Garhart
Sometimes sold on Etsy for way overprice.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 3 DEC by Lee H.
I’m beginning to believe that one can make a tidy side hustle with discontinued Austin roses. Same story with Jude the Obscure.

It’s only overpriced if you can’t find willing buyers…
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 4 DEC by Nastarana
They seem to be quite the status symbol in some quarters. I wonder if the DA company will not live to regret its' aggressive culling policy.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 4 DEC by Kathy Strong
lol, I hope you live long enough to see that! They have been culling better roses for poorer roses since their early days, sometimes just to replace a pink rose on the market without patent protection with one that did get patented.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 6 DEC by Michael Garhart
Ding ding ding. Watch what Star does now that the KO patents will start to wane.
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