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What is this ? most recent 2 JAN 07 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 2 JAN 07 by Meschuee

Happy New Year, everyone.I hope it's a peaceful and prosperous one for you all.Penny (England)	REPLY

Website Errors and Problems most recent 13 NOV 06 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 13 NOV 06 by Meschuee

"Search" function not working. 2.30 p.m. Greenwich meantime today, 13th November, 2006.I tried a search for the rose "Ambassador" and could get only blank pagesPenny(Meschuee)	REPLY

General most recent 29 OCT 06 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 29 OCT 06 by Meschuee

Hello.Is anyone having problems reaching RosariansCorner? I'm in the Uk and am getting server not available errorn messages.Sunday, 29th October, 2006.Bye,Penny.	REPLY

What is this ? most recent 17 OCT 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 24 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello. :) Another rose to identify. It came as a small cutting from a friend and was supposed to have red flowers as I wanted a piece of her lovely red pillar rose (no identification on that, either), but has yellow flowers. The buds are yellow with red markings, the rose itself has some red markings inside on its petals and isn'[t very fragrant. It's a very sturdy rose with red stems and new leaves and is extremely thorny. The main stem is covered in very sharp small thorns. It's very fast growing and prolific but has only grown a few flowers this year, sending out masses of new canes instead.I've attached photos. Thanks for any ideas. I did try the Advanced Search but didn't come up with anything. Bye, Penny.

Reply #1 of 33 posted 24 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi Penny, another mystery for us. I searched the bud book and all my other books and I don't see anything quite like it. Hopefully someone will recognize it. Please keep us posted Jody	REPLY

Reply #3 of 33 posted 25 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody. Thanks for searching for me. I noticed that some of the inner rose petals themselves. are edged with red. Going to look at the rose that Wendy has suggested. Just in from watering my garden after watering at Palmer Gardens Garden Centre. I need a cuppa! Bye. :)	REPLY

Reply #5 of 33 posted 25 JUL 06 by Jody

Hi Penny, so do you think it's Gold Medal?? whatever it is, it's just gorgeous. many of my roses are finished too. The Gertrude Jekyll is blooming away as is the Mystery Rose. Many are putting out new growth but no more blooms. The climbing Cecile Brunner won't quit growing. It's about 3x too big for it's trellis. I asked my husband to make me a new trellis or arbor for Christmas. well good luck with the ID. You have another beautful one! Jody , PS stupid question but by cuppa do you mean tea or coffee?. Too hot for either for me, I am only drinking ice water in this heat. Take care

Reply #6 of 33 posted 26 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody.I looked at Gold Medal and feel that it's petals are more pointed than the rose I have. The rose I found (though I only got to 'C' in the alphabetical list of roses, lots more to check) is Alix Roussel. I picked the blown flower last night and counted 27 petals (could be more as I dropped some) and noticed that it was quite distinctly apple scented, whereas I couldn't find a scent during the day. Will keep looking. Is there a forum here where we can post general photos of our roses? I have a photo of Abrham Darby and Gloire de Dijon in their second flowering I'd like to post. We had temperatures of 110 degrees Farenheit yesterday - making for thirsty roses in tubs! Lovely to have the roses putting out new growth. I want to get Cecile Brunner - it's a prolific grower by all accounts, as you are finding. I've attached a photo of the trellis I had erected in July, up which to grow my roses. The photo is before any of the roses were planted. Bye, Penny

Reply #7 of 33 posted 26 JUL 06 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

Penny........

You can post your photos on HelpMeFind. We have one of the largest rose photo libraries on the Internet. Just go to the rose page and upload your photo from there. (1. Click on roses to the left on the navigation bar. 2. Enter rose name in search field. 3. Click on the "Photos" tab near the top of the page. 4. Click on upload photo and follow instructions.)

It will be wonderful to have more of your photos included on the site.

Smiles,

Lyn, helpmefind.com

Reply #8 of 33 posted 26 JUL 06 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

Penny........

I'd like to encourage you to use the "Advanced Search" feature on HelpMeFind. It will eliminate all of the roses from the list that do not have the characteristics you have chosen, i.e., "red" roses, assuming you chose to look for "yellow" roses. You can look for more characteristics at once by using the "And" radio button. For example, might select to look for "hybrid tea, yellow roses". That would make your search list much shorter.

Good luck.

Smiles,

Lyn, helpmefind.com

Reply #10 of 33 posted 27 JUL 06 by Jody

HI Penny, thanks for the pix of your arbor, looks really nice. It looks like it is rod iron? My new one will be of wood since my husband is a woodworker. I have a question re your Gloire de Dijon. I was reading on another site that it is very prone to Blackspot. I just wondered if yours was? I think my next rose will be Topaz Jewel to replace the Rugelda I dug up but I' m interested in the Gloire and also that Hamburger Phoenix. Great you got an Iceberg!!! My Midnight Blue is happier these days, and has come back full of foilage and buds. Hope it is cooler there. Jody

Reply #11 of 33 posted 28 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody.It's still very hot here, in the 90's Farenheit. Growing up, if the temperature went into the 90's it was a big occasion! Gloire de Dijon hasn't suffered with blackspot this year - though I did treat against it a while back. It's a lovely rose, I'm sure you'll enjoy it very much. Topaz Jewel sounds lovely. I'll take a look, if there's a photo on the site, or do some surfing. I'm pleased your Midnight Blue is happier - I passed a pale "blue" rose in a garden yesterday - really striking. A very pale mauve, really. It's a pity people don't leave the labels on roses in their gardens. Schoolgirl is planted on the far side of the trellis, to grow through towards the house, but as she's being slow I planted Iceberg in front of her, this side of the trellis, so if she does grow they will intertwine. An apricot and a white rose growing together! The Arbour (or flower arch) came as a kit of metal tubing which slotted together. I had fun doing that. I found it easiest to lay it out on the ground in order and then put it together. They are relatively cheap to buy in that form. I'll be able to put a piece of wood across the corner of the trellis if I want, as well, for the roses to grow along. I love the wooden ones but they come at a price - there are some in my home shopping catalogue that I've got my eye on for the future. :) I'm sure the one your husband makes will be excellent. Looking forward to seeing it I'm going out now to water the bonsai and flowers, the vegetable garden can wait until the morning. Hope you have a very good weekend with your roses. Bye, Penny.

Reply #12 of 33 posted 1 AUG 06 by Jody

Hi Penny, how are you doing? It is much cooler here, but a heat wave is on in the Eastern US. I hope you are cooler? Your Schoolgirl and Iceberg sounds like they will be just lovely together. You will have to send a pix next year when they are in bloom...you mention people should put tags on their roses. I just did that with tags from Lee Valley Gardening. Have you ever looked at their catalogue on line? I got my David Austin catalogue today via snail mail. I had looked on line but hadn't seen the actual catalogue. The photos are just beautiful. I want one of each!!! . I esp like Teasing Georgia. It's a really nice, free catalogue. I hope you and all your roses are doing well!!!! . Jody PS can I ask you, what does "wibble" mean? is it to cry? I read a book about Brit Chris moon who lost an arm and leg doing charity work clearing mines and he says to everyone, we aren't going to wibble about this. does he mean cry ? or be sad?? Thanks Jody

Reply #13 of 33 posted 2 AUG 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody. The roses are settling well, thanks. "Red New Dawn" has masses of foliage, "Zepherine Drouhin" as at last started to put out shoots (she's thornless), "Madame Alfred Carrier" - who I moved - is shooting, too. Excellent. I came home with another climber yesterday, "Swan Lake", but the ground is so hard I'm having to soak it, using the hose, for a few days so I can dig a hole! I found these definitions of "Wibble". It's not a word using in this part of the country, that I know of (I'm in the South West) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wibble&r=f Oooh, just noticed the sky, the most beautiful sunset, and rushed out to take a photo. I've also taken a photo of my neighbours' lovely pink climber and found out it's name, "Ophelia". I've added the photo to the site, also their "Dublin Bay", growing up a pillar. I've just ordered the Austin rose catalogue, too. Bye :)

Reply #14 of 33 posted 3 AUG 06 by Jody

Hi Penny, Thanks so much for the link to that site. It answered my question on wibble. Did you plant Swan Lake yet.? That is a lovely rose. Did you ever decide which rose the yellow with red is? you said it wasn't Gold medal, any other guesses? I gave up on the Mystery Rose of mine. It's name is just Mystery Rose. Whatever it is, it's my healthiest and most prolific bloomer. I'm glad all yours are doing so well esp the ones you moved. I admire you for putting that arbor together. It really does look nice. I went to the local Nursery yesterday and looked at Abe Darby. I considered it but I am still interested in that Topaz Jewel and only so much space. Hope you and all the roses are well. Jody

Reply #17 of 33 posted 7 AUG 06 by Meschuee

Hello Jody.:) Yes, "Swan Lake" is planted. I'm just going to watering her now, along with the other newer planting, "Iceberg". I've got some fish, blood and bonemeal coming to feed my new standard rose when I plant it in a big pot, "Savoy Hotel", and I'll given the other roses a dressing, too.You might not do well with "Abraham Darby". I saw on the net that an American rose grower didn't think much of him at all - I suppose it didn't do well in her climate, but I don't see whey he wouldn't do nicely in a big pot. We can't have every rose under the sun, unfortunately! Your "Topaz Jewel" is lovely. Good luck with when you get it.I'm beginning to wonder whether my mystery rose (a good name that for yours!) is a cutting (as I said to Lyn, now a thicket!) of "Golden Showers". I notice the other rose I have of that variety also has dark stamens and red markings, though when fully opened, they don't quite match each other. Probably going to be like you, I'll never really know, just enjoy the rose, whatever.No rain here still. I'm watering each evening at the garden centre, then coming home to do mine. Bye for now. :)

Reply #18 of 33 posted 7 AUG 06 by Jody

Hi Penny. I am surprised that the American said Abe didn't do well. she must be in a lower zone?. The site says it does well in 5-10. I am in 5 or 5b, close to 6. Of all YOUR roses I like your Abe best. you have beautiful, healthy roses but I am partial to the Abe. But you know how it is, I have to choose.. so I have put my name down with Uncommon Rose for the Topaz Jewel and Bayse's Purple. They are closed until the end of August but I put my name down online. I think Golden Showers has a licorce fragrance. I must go water, another hot day here..take care Jody

Reply #20 of 33 posted 8 AUG 06 by Meschuee

Thanks, Jody, for the tip about "Golden Showers". I must say that the flower didn't look like the other "Golden Showers" I have. I'm still searching. I'm gong to look up your roses now. As you say, we have to choose. I think the rose grower might be a member here - this is her site. It's a lovely site, full of beautful photos and lots of information - just not an "Abraham Darby" fan! Bet you can't wait until the end of August and the arrival of your new roses. Looking forward to seeing them. There are some "Rosa Banksii" for sale at the garden centre, yellow flowered-ones. I've got my eye on them!I had a rose turn up unexpectedly in the garden, when opened it's a lovely, red with yellow stamens. I'll post its photo when I've processed it.Bye :)

Reply #2 of 33 posted 25 JUL 06 by Wendy C

Reply #4 of 33 posted 25 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Wendy.Thank you very much for suggesting a rose. I'll take a look at "Gold Medal" now. It's been a very good year ofr roses, lots of lovely flowers around - not so many now most are finishing, though my Abraham Darby and Gloire de Dijon, in their tubs, have a second flowering. Lovely! Bye :)	REPLY

Reply #9 of 33 posted 26 JUL 06 by Meschuee

Hello Lyn.Thanks for reminding me I can post my photos - silly me, I was thinking of a members' gallery but, of course, we don't need that with the excellent set-up to post photos.I keep trying the advanced search and each time am told no roses meet my criteria. I tried putting in yellow blend and got so many to check. I'll certainly try again. What class of rose is the one I'm trying to identify - I'm not sure? I thinks it's a double, but don't know whether it's a Tea or something else.Thanks very much for your help.Bye,Penny.p.s. I got a climbing "Iceberg" today. :) A big, well-grown specimen. I was interested to see that its white flower had pink spots. I thought "Iceberg" was pure white.

Reply #15 of 33 posted 3 AUG 06 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

Hi Penny.........

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you about the "Advanced Search". I had to do a little research on my own and then check it with the HMF Staff. As I have said before, HMF is a work-in-progress. Many of the characteristics that are now being recorded for the roses we are entering today were not a part of the database when HMF was started several years ago. It's going to be a major project to update the rose database for a lot of this information, but we'll probably do it when Modern Roses XII is published later this year. All that means to you is that if you put too many characteristics in your search query, you will get an error message and no information.

However, a LOT of information is there for every rose, so the "Advanced Search" is still a good tool. I have found that If I start with two characteristics like "Class" and "Color", I can get quite a lengthy list of roses to view. Then I might add another characteristic like "Bloom Form" and the list will get smaller.

Another tool on the site that can help answer some very basic questions is the "Glossary". You'll find it on the left on the navigation bar. There are broad definitions about what characteristics make up a class of rose or other terms you might find on the site.

It sounds as if your roses are beautiful. Good luck with all that you are doing.

Smiles,

Lyn, helpmefind.com

Reply #16 of 33 posted 7 AUG 06 by Meschuee

Hello Lyn.Not a problem. Thank you very much for the information about the search. Sounds as though it will be excellent. I'll take a look at the glossary - a very useful tool to use.I'm beginning to wonder whether the rose is a cutting (now a thicket!) of "Golden Showers". Does she have an apple scent? I'll do a search. "Abraham Darby" is covered in flowers - I've just taken another photo and will post it in the appropriate place. "New Red Dawn" is wonderful and still has some of the original flowers from when I planted it a month or so ago, it's put on a lot of nice new growth, too. "Gloire de Dijon" has had a few repeat flowers. "Zepherine Drouhin" is doing well, putting out shoots. "Bobby James" is just sitting, but "Etoile de Holland" is lengthening its long canes. I'm going out now to water the two newest of the plantings, "Swan Lake" and "Iceberg". Are we able to add a signature to our posts? I'll take a look and see.Hope all you roses are blooming.Bye :)

Reply #19 of 33 posted 7 AUG 06 by HMF supporting member

RoseBlush

Hi Penny.........

I have never grown 'Golden Showers', so I really don't know much about the rose. I'll be reading about it in the same way you'll be reading about it. It's supposed to be a wonderful plant.

It sounds like you are getting an interesting group of roses for your garden. I don't have a place to plant climbers, yet, and I have to find out how big the Austins get in northern California before I really put many into the ground. Down south, Abe Darby was known to grow to 8' or more. It's a beautiful rose, too.

Remember, some roses take a few years before they come into their own, expecially climbers. Be sure to give them plenty of time.

Smiles,

Lyn, helpmefind.com

Reply #21 of 33 posted 8 AUG 06 by Meschuee

Hello Lyn.Thank you very much for the tip about giving the roses time. I certainly will. I hadn't realized until I found rose sites, that roses grow very much taller over there. Logical, really, with your different climates. I believe people prune and cut them back more than here, to keep them manageable. I don't know how you'd cope with "Bobby James", who grows up to 30 feet here!I gave the climbers a top-dressing of a nice potting compost today and wanted to dress them with Fish, Blood and Bone but used all the box on other plants in the garden, though I did have enough to dress "Abe" and "Gloire de Dijon" in their pots. Must get someFB&B for the climbers.:)

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Reply #25 of 33 posted 10 OCT 06 by Meschuee

Hello Amy. I'll take at look at Redgold, sounds a nice rose. :) Thanks. Not to worry that you've only just seen the thread.I said I'd post a photo of my new flower arch when I'd erected it and here it is. I've Golden Showers on one side that was already in situ, growing agains the wall, and Perpetually Yours planted newly on the other.:)p.s. I tried to upload photos but don't think they did. :( I'll try in a separate post.Roses are blooming again here and so are my clematis. The weather is wet and muggy and I haven't been able to get onto the grass to cut it it's so soggy.Bye,Penny. :)

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Look at the photos of Peace on this website. I've grown Peace for over 30 years and have found that it's appearance can vary significantly depending on conditions and location. but I really think that is what you have from your two photos.	REPLY

Reply #33 of 33 posted 17 OCT 06 by Meschuee

Thanks very much, Bob. I'll do that. I'm still not able to post photos. I have been able to before.It's been suggested that the rose is "Penelope". Nice if it was, that being my name.Bye :)	REPLY