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Margit Schowalter
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Initial post 3 days ago by hannes
Sorry to see that none of our knowledgeable North American rose friends has chimed in here so far. However, I now have confirmation from Sangerhausen: The rose 'Langford' had been listed wrongly for quite some time as 'Longford' (most possibly due to a typo). The wrong classification as Hybrid Helena is possibly in connection with a mistake in the 1970 edition of the printed Sangerhausen rose directory. Both plants grown at Sangerhausen are consistent with the description of the Hybrid Setigera named 'Langford'.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 3 days ago by Margit Schowalter
Hannes

Yes, the information from Sangerhausen is correct and the "Longford" reference should be merged with "Langford". The rose was lost in Canada and only recently has been imported from Sangerhausen and is now grown in the Montreal Botanic Garden in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 3 days ago by hannes
Thank you, Margit. It is good to hear that 'Langford' is grown again in Canada and this is one more instance for the importance of a rose collection like the Europa Rosarium Sangerhausen.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
Merged. I think it is all correct now.
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most recent 4 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
This rose seems to have very little connection with 'Stanwell Perpetual'.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 4 JUN by Patricia Routley
Seems to be more like 'Single Cherry' to me.
Does anybody have any references for 'Red Stanwell Perpetual'?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 4 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
When it does not look or behave like 'Stanwell Perpetual', I'm surprised it was given this name.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 4 JUN by Margit Schowalter
To my way of thinking the name implies the rose is a seedling of 'Stanwell Perpetual'. Len keeps excellent records and I am certain he will be able to get more information from the the source.
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most recent 21 MAR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 MAR by Margit Schowalter
Great photo!
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most recent 16 MAR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 MAR by Byrnes, Robert L.
This rose is rated hardy to zone 2b in the following paper:

Roses for the North
Performance of Shrub and Old Garden Roses at the Minnesota Landscape Arboretum
Kathy Zuzek, Marcia Richards, Steve McNamara and Harold Pellett

Minnesota Agricultural Experiment Station University of Minnesota Minnesota Report 237-1995

Could there be a change made to the current hardiness rating? Thank you.

Rob Byrnes
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 15 MAR by Margit Schowalter
Hi Rob,
Further to your reference regarding zone 2, we know Georges Bugnet was using R. amblyotis in zone 2 Alberta (1930's), Canada when he developed his famous rose 'Thérèse Bugnet'.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 15 MAR by Byrnes, Robert L.
Hello Margit,

Thank you for your reply. I learned about R. amblyotis while looking at 'Therese Bugnet' lineage. R. amblyotis was listed as being hardy to zone 6 and thought that couldn't be acurate. So I did a little searching and found the reference I posted.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 15 MAR by Patricia Routley
I have changed the hardiness rating to 2b.
Rob, if you have posted references, and I know you are familiar with adding your own roses, could you have changed this hardiness rating yourself? HelpMeFind always needs more volunteer administrators.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 16 MAR by Byrnes, Robert L.
Patricia, I don’t believe that I have the ability to change any listing other than my own or ones that I’ve added on behalf of someone else. I’d welcome the ability to volunteer. Thank you.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 16 MAR by Patricia Routley
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