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most recent 14 FEB SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 26 JAN 12 by Grntrz5
How does this rose fare in cooler humid weather, or HOT humid weather? I see that it's fine in hot dry areas.
I'm in zone 5b where we get it all, and snow cover is not reliable.

I checked on J/P's website, they are not listing it currently.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 28 JAN 12 by Seil
grntrz, I have this rose in my garden in MI and it has wintered very well, with and without protection. It isn't the most vigorous rose in my garden but it has hung in there since it's introduction in 2006. It's very short at between 2 and 3 feet tall and it is slower to repeat and usually only gives me 3 flushes a season. It also will black spot for me. Humidity does not bother it as the blooms always open no matter how hot and humid it is. Blooms are about 3 inches in size, lovely shades of apricot but are not fragrant.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 28 JAN 12 by Grntrz5
Seil, thank you, it's good to know it does open with humidity-and the blooms are of some size in the hot part of summer. As for fragrance, I guess that's up to our genes! My husband can smell Tea roses, and so maybe this one has some of those notes in it as well.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 9 JAN by jmile
My Sisters At Heart rose has just started climbing my Maiten tree. It is in bloom now and has a lot of buds on it. Such a hardy rose.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 14 FEB by Harem On The Hill
sisters at heart does great in the cool foggy weather of San Francisco if that is helpful to know.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 14 FEB by Nastarana
That being the case, it would also be helpful to know the lineage.
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most recent 17 DEC SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 SEP 17 by Puns 'n' Roses
Summer Song is a really special rose in a rare colour. That said, I really hate these secretive "seedling x seedling" statements. Mr Austin did not invent roses, he built upon the works of others, who themselves have been building upon the works of others for generations. Nobody can make me believe Mr Austin got Summer Song as a chance seedling with unknown parentage. By not disclosing the parentage, he wants to prevent others from going down the same road in hybridising.
Of course it's not only an Austin phenomenon, and part of my argument is vain because I can use Summer Song itself in hybridising, but I still find this kind of non-disclosure irritating to say the least.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 5 SEP 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
It would be fun to guess the parentage. I grow two own-root Pat Austin with shiny & glossy foliage, and I can see some Pat Austin in pictures of Summer Song's leaves. Pat is a water-hog and can't take full-sun & best in 4 hours of morning sun. Pat Austin has a mango scent (like Summer Song). Another rose that might be in Summer Song's parentage is Geranium Red (amazing scent & many petals, but wimpy).
The glossy-foliage like Summer Song and Pat Austin need alkaline minerals & shade and constant wetness more than others, in my experience of growing 110+ OWN-ROOT roses.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 17 DEC by jmile
I got my first Summer Song this year. We get very hot in the Summer in Zone 9B so I put it where it only got sun half day. It grew very listlessly. It produced some flowers but not much----so I moved it into full sun and heat----It loved it. It perked up and sent out new growth. I didn't water it a lot either---- it was adapt or die and it chose to adapt and it is looking a lot better. I am hoping that next year will be even a better year in full sun and hot weather. I got two more young plants this Fall so I will experiment. Maybe graft it onto Fortuniana to see how that goes.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 SEP 17 by Nastarana
The habit of not disclosing parentage is particularly annoying for us who garden in difficult climates because it prevents us from studying lineages to help us determine whether a cultivar can thrive in our climate and soil conditions. It does help a little to know in which of his five categories Austin places his roses, but even that information is not always or often included in nursery descriptions.
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most recent 14 DEC HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 DEC by jmile
Available from Palatine Nursery
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most recent 27 NOV SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 30 JUN 21 by Michael Garhart
Okay, it grew out and bloomed a bit so I can comment.

It has HT form for its first half, and OGR form in its second half. Foliage is a lot like Voodoo/Louise Hay/We Salute You, but much more compact. Foliage is flori size, and so are blooms. Quite compact but not a runt. Color is like Marilyn Monroe, but without the green.


I like it. Very shiny, dense, and ethereal. No comment on scent.
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 14 JUN 22 by jmile
There is NOTHING compact about this rose. Just give it plenty of space and a stake to prop up its many many blooms. Mine is in its second year and I really have to get it out of its pot and into a large space in the garden.
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Reply #2 of 11 posted 15 JUN 22 by Patricia Routley
Photos of the bush would be of value.
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Reply #3 of 11 posted 15 JUN 22 by Michael Garhart
It was among the 120+ I moved last autumn/winter. I can do that next year.

The other used may be experiencing a climatic effect different than mine. Mine has been in the soil, also, but I do use excess fertilizer. I use excess on all roses because I send seedlings off to trial. This serves to partially recreate field trial treatment, where they pump them up with nitrogen and either mass overhead water or flood the rows to water in very high UV climates. In doing this, it tells me which roses will shows up with powdery and downy as parents of seedlings or as seedlings in testing.

Rose trials are almost always exaggerated artificial conditions that breeders rarely expect.

Anyway, I can do a photo Spring 2023.
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Reply #4 of 11 posted 15 JUN 22 by jmile
I used to upload pictures, but I no longer have an app to make my Iphone pictures files size smaller. You need smaller files. I will try again.
Hey, It worked. I will start loading pictures again.
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Reply #5 of 11 posted 15 JUN 22 by Michael Garhart
I'm not sure which version you use, but there is an editor installed into the same app that takes that photos proprietary to iphones. Once you snap said photo, go back and click on it, and there are tons of little tools to use, including silly filters.

Glad it worked out for ya.
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 27 NOV by Michael Garhart
Mine did mature after it bloomed. The mature architecture was similar to Singin in the Rain, but slightly tighter. I have Garden Delight 3 roses down, and its larger and wider. This is no 'Remembrance' type of compact, but it isn't very large here in the Pacific Northwest.

The form and scent are very nice. I am not usually into "OGR form" but the colors and petals persist for a good time, and did drop petals properly. The color is also interesting. Different enough from month to month without looking like junk from the weather. It would probably make a good kitchen table rose that actually has some scent to it.

With all that said, I still love my 'Easy Going' better, for this color and growth class. It's brighter, more rounded, and a real do'er.
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Reply #6 of 11 posted 26 JUN 22 by Kathy Strong
I am liking this a lot! New for me this year, but definitely a winner.
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Reply #7 of 11 posted 28 JUN 22 by Michael Garhart
I like it a lot. It has modernity and romance, and unlike many Romanticas, it doesn't suffer from rain rotting the blooms.
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Reply #8 of 11 posted 28 JUN 22 by Kathy Strong
Haha, wish I knew about rain. . . Haven't seen much of that for many years. Damn drought!
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Reply #9 of 11 posted 29 JUN 22 by Michael Garhart
You say that now, but people quickly change their minds once they experience the "joys" of rainforest climates lol. We have a low population for such a large state for a reason.

I do hope you guys get some more acceptable weather in the near future, after the incoming August Hell. I know its been a rough set of years in the SW.
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Reply #10 of 11 posted 4 MAR 23 by Aerith
Thanks for your input. How would you rate its disease resistance and shade tolerance? Is it good on its ownroot? We live near Seattle and it's mostly rainy or cloudy from mid fall to late spring. The healthier the better!
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