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most recent 26 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 APR by Cà Berta
The database of Roseto Botanico Gianfranco e Carla Fineschi reports it as "H. rug." by Mansuino (almost certainly Quinto)
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 26 APR by Patricia Routley
Thank you Bruna. Breeder added.
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most recent 12 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 APR by Cà Berta
in "Le rose italiane" by Andrew Hornung, 2015 page 170
"Granatina (Rubaiyat x Mrs Miniver) probabilmente è stata ottenuta in questo stesso periodo" (i.e. in the late '50s)
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 APR by Patricia Routley
Thanks Bruna. Reference added.
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most recent 10 MAR SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 20 AUG 15 by CybeRose
The Floricultural Cabinet, and Florists' Magazine, Volume 9 page 195 (Sept 1, 1841)
Banksia rosea is a slight deviation from the true Banksia; it appears to bear an affinity to some of the Boursoult Roses of humbler growth.
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Reply #1 of 12 posted 22 AUG 15 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Karl.
I have added your references, but note that you have commented in a file which has the "foundling" double quotes. We have two files:
"Rosa banksiae rosea" (Rambler)
Rosea (hybrid banksia)
I suspect they should be merged to become just the one 'Rosea' (hybrid banksiae)?
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 22 AUG 15 by CybeRose
Patricia,
I really don't know anything about this (these?). I just happened across a mention of Banksia rosea and wanted to preserve the info.

It would be interesting if this "Rosea" turns out to be a Hybrid Banksiae.
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Reply #3 of 12 posted 23 AUG 15 by Patricia Routley
I know nothing about them either, but there is a garden called Le Villerot in France who grows the founding rose. Perhaps we should seek more information before merging the files. Does anybody know this garden or the owners
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Reply #4 of 12 posted 23 AUG 15 by Cà Berta
In Italy a few nurseries sell Rosa Banksiae rosea. I bought two from Vivai Innocenti & Mangoni and they proved to be Tausendschon. I think that other pink roses might be sold with that name.
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 24 AUG 15 by Patricia Routley
I had a fossick around the one nursery that HelpMeFind lists for this rose, Crocus, but could only find a normal banksiae.
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Reply #6 of 12 posted 24 AUG 15 by Cà Berta
... the other, plantes et jardins.com, as stated in HMF sells a Rosa banksiae rosea. However, as far as I can judge from the photo ( http://www.plantes-et-jardins.com/p/24998-rosier-de-banks-rosea#ref=1212-2_2-2_1103-3) it looks Tausendschon. It does not surprise me as Vivai Innocenti & Mangoni is a sort of huge hub that sells to other nurseries in 40 countries.
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 24 AUG 15 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Cà Berta. We've noted on the foundling page that it may be 'Tausendschon'.
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 24 AUG 15 by Cà Berta
Warning is the only thing we can do!
In 2007 I wrote to Mangoni and they, very kindly, replied that "their commercial catalogue is dedicated to professionals who are presumed to have in-depth knowledge of the subject". Nino Sanremo, a truly professional nursery, in fact removed Rosea banksiae rosea from its catalogue and donated the left over plants to customers.
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Reply #9 of 12 posted 25 DEC 16 by Chirotteri
mhm...
what about this rose?:
http://www.planfor.fr/achat,rosier-de-banks-rosea,9383,FR
(they say: "Introduced in France in 1807")

I have got one bought there. It is now (December) blooming.

It has some small thorns. Little scent. It is a few years old plant not showing (yet?) tall canes as other banksiae I have (alba plena and lutea).

I am posting a picture....
Need I to rename it??? Thank you!
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 25 DEC 16 by jedmar
I had to look up the dictionary for the meaning of "fossick"!
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Reply #12 of 12 posted 10 MAR by Patricia Routley
I have been fossicking..... and will add a new comment in 'Tausendschon', which may be relevant.
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Reply #10 of 12 posted 25 DEC 16 by jedmar
I have uploaded 3 photos I made during a visit to Le Villerot in 2014. It was not a full grown plant at the time and had only a few blooms. The canes are without prickles, and leaflets are narrow and lanceolate, however I cannot confirm that it is really a banksia. It does not look like 'Tausendschön' to me, the foliage is narrower. The introduction date of 1807 is definitely incorrect, that refers to the white version of the Banksia.
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most recent 16 FEB SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 FEB by Cà Berta
In "Le rose italiane. Una storia di passione e bellezza dall'Ottocento a oggi", by Andrew Hornung 2015 Ed. Pendragon page 170
"Serenella (1954) è un bellissimo ibrido di Tè, molto doppio, rosa-lilla"

That description matches the photos I posted in HMF in 2016
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 16 FEB by Patricia Routley
Reference added. Thank you Bruna.
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