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This is available from Palatine Roses in Canada as well.
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I wouldn't want to know where it is available from for I don't buy roses without a pedigree.
Imagine buying a yearling colt or filly without a pedigree.
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Hello, thanks for all the good work you do. I was advised that a message was sent to me from Tarcoma which I read but would appear I have deleted it un error. Perhaps you can re send or contact Tarcoma to re message me.
Regards Bruce
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Hello Bruce,
Why don’t you send Tarcoma a Private Message. Let us know if you have a problem.
Patricia
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Surprised there aren't more comments about Camp David on here. It's a very popular and well known rose here in Australia and with a name like this and the plants impressive characteristics, I expected it would have been very popular in the US, especially, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Don't have this rose myself, but have seen it in all its glory in display gardens and rose gardens and the house across the road from us has what used to be a VERY impressive standard (tree) version of this rose (I'm pretty certain it's this variety). Unfortunately they don't seem to be familiar with pruning, so it doesn't do anywhere near as well as it could, even with just a summer dead-head.
This is a really good rose, especially if you want a strong, vigorous, bushy bush, that has heaps of big, blood-red blooms on it. In my experience this is not really a rose that you would buy for its form alone, as there are slightly better formed reds, or for it's fragrance alone, as the fragrance is only medium-strong and not as good as Mister Lincoln, Papa M and Oklahoma, for instance, but for its general garden display, which is really impressive.
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Camp David is a great rose , so healthy in drought conditions without water. It is a very stout rose that has produced a single hip this season and have heard from David Meares this is not uncommon after about 8 years growth. I did mention almost no fragrance but others mention mild to medium fragrance. I look forward to germinating the seeds from this single hip. It does so well in very warm conditions I would like to try it in very cold areas because it's so vigorous.
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I recall coming across 'Camp David' in full bloom in an abandoned nursery in 2003. It was labelled and surrounded by an edging of the variegated pelagonium 'Mme. Salleron', Lemoine 1840. I took cuttings of both but only the pelagonium survived in my garden. (Nowadays I have to grow the pelagonium in a fenced garden as the rabbits, ducks and guinea fowl just love a salad of 'Mme. Saleron'.) But the memory of that rose is strong enough to make me buy it, if ever I came across it in a nursery.
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#3 of 3 posted
22 NOV 20 by
 HubertG
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I had to use up a nursery gift voucher and today I bought a standard 'Camp David' largely because of the recommendations here. It had one flower on it in the nursery and I can't agree it has no fragrance. To my nose it has a moderate fragrance but a very nice one. That was the clincher. It does have blackish shading but that really appealed to me.
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Available from - Glenorie Roses
brucetreloar@gmail.com
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Are you sure of the veracity of this one Ozeboy? I thought only the climber was available in Australia.
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#2 of 12 posted
23 APR 10 by
kev
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ozeboy is quiet correct here .the best source is our mr.rose himself David Ruston of Renmark who lists it and has it in his collection.his list is available online and is a great reference to have.kev.
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Hello kev. I do see in David's 2003-2004 Collection listing, on p36 that he is listing 'Souvenir of Wootton' hybrid tea, 1888. However correspondence from Pat Toolan and Margaret Furness who have spent much time in David's garden helping him to prune etc, wrote to me in 2006: <i>"Once again we were stopped in our tracks by .....and yet again by a pillar rose labeled 'Souvenir of Wootton', but which appears to be its sport 'Climbing Wootton' circa 1897 HT from Butler/Craig – bright magenta red full blooms beckoning us from afar." </i>
Perhaps when someone is next at Renmark, they could confirm for you that the plant at David Ruston's garden is the 1897 climber, and not the 1888 bush.
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#3 of 12 posted
24 APR 10 by
Cass
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It would be nice to see a photo of the rose.
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we have the only souvenir de wootton in existance (that we know of) here in Baltimore, a cutting was sent to us from sangerhousen and the original plant there has since been destroyed. I will upload some photos but helpmefind has to approve of those and post them. our wootton is growing in a public garden and we have successfully rooted cuttings
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The plant at Renmark has been hacked back to bush size. When we first saw it, it was behaving like a pillar rose.
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A plant at Renmark, grown from the original one on David Ruston's property, is definitely a climber. I'll photograph it when it's in flower.
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We look forward to seeing that Margaret.
Here is a rose which came to me as 'Souvenir of Wootton' and my provenance reads something like: Rustons-1; a lady-2; a man who budded it on to R. multiflora-3; a nursery who shipped it to WA-4; in 2009. To date it has not climbed, but in this garden I wouldn't place too much importance on that. I have listed it in my garden records as 'Climbing Wootton'. However, I am having difficulty in reconciling my rose with the photo of 'Clg. Wootton' in the Heritage Roses in Australia journal Winter 2006, page 58.
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I think we got a wrong'un the first time round from the same source, and had it re-budded. I'll have to wait till it flowers to double-check the one we have now. The original plant is still there, if needed.
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Re the photo of 'Clg. Wootton' in the Heritage Roses in Australia journal Winter 2006, page 58. It may have been the rose that was circulating as 'Argosy'?
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That issue is of course the one missing from my collection. But if it's the photo I posted on hmf under Cl Wootton, the plant wasn't / isn't growing among Clark roses. There are Clark roses growing isolated elsewhere at Ruston's, but that's as much as I can offer till flowering season.
14 Nov 2014: I missed the spring flush, but have posted a whole-plant photo to show that what we have in the HRIAI Collection is definitely a climber.
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#12 of 12 posted
8 JUN 19 by
Ms.Lefty
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Todd - Fellow Baltimoron here! I'm wondering whether your Souvenir de Wooten is still alive and growing (at Cylburn, I assume), and whether you (or anybody else) been able to propagate it.
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