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Fred Boutin once commented that perhaps the found rose, "Peggy Martin" might be Hauff.
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#1 of 5 posted
23 APR by
 Lee H.
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The description does seem to generally fit. The only reason I have to doubt that statement is that I germinated a few OP hips this year, and Peggy is definitely very fertile. Hauff seems to have been somewhat popular at least up until 1936, and I would expect "some" record of descendants.
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We had speculated that with advent of WWII that many no longer wished to discuss or document roses of German origin in the US and perhaps elsewhere. Might explain why there are minimal records.
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#3 of 5 posted
23 APR by
jedmar
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'Hauff' is described as purple to violet, and 'Peggy Martin' is more pinkish, isn't it?
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#4 of 5 posted
23 APR by
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Wellll…it certainly is darker with maybe a touch of violet when it is just opening, but I don’t think most people would describe it as purplish. Here’s a section of a picture I grabbed of just opening buds last year. Can’t vouch for the color accuracy of an Apple phone.
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A rose which is purplish in Germany might well be pinkish lavender in New Orleans. I have found that the color of lavenderish roses is quite affected by amount and brightness of available sunlight. 'St. Elizabeth of Hungary' was not an attractive color in my cool zone garden; OTOH, 'Blue Moon' is exquisite, when it does bloom.
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Possibly the same as Enfant de France.
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Per discussion with Fred Boutin, this rose may be Queen Mab.
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Five years on, how are the discussions going?
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I haven't seen 'Queen Mab' in person, but this rose never shows pink, at any time of the year or at any stage of its bloom, in my experience, and is consistently a true apricot (like 'Lady Hillingdon'), unlike what the photos of 'Queen Mab' show (except of course for the time it bloomed pure white, as in the photo I just put up - and below!).
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A most interesting photo Deborah. I can't help thinking of the 'Lady Roberts' which periodically changed from yellow to white. See "Blanche Roberts".
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Well, Patricia, what an interesting observation! Perhaps some affinity with the 'Lady Roberts'/'Anna Olivier' line? The color on this rose can fade precipitously in certain weathers. Here are photos of a half-open bud this morning, after it rained all day yesterday. There are still traces of apricot color deeper inside, but the color is overall very pale.
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My goodness! Is this really just one plant? It is very beautiful,
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#1 of 6 posted
22 OCT 15 by
styrax
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It's very, very old. Polyanthas, after a century or 2 of lavish care can reach 6 or 7 feet.
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Thank you for your reply. I got a little worried when I saw the size of yours. I just ordered one yesterday and wasn't sure where to plant such a giant. I think I can safely stick to my original plan for a planting spot. I will let someone else deal with it a hundred years from now. I can only hope mine will look as wonderful as yours does!
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#5 of 6 posted
22 OCT 15 by
styrax
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Oh no, it's not mine! But I know a bit about that plant.
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Polyantha ? - or Tea?
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#4 of 6 posted
22 OCT 15 by
styrax
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Polyanthas were the best example I could think of, and the most dramatic.
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Yes, this is only one plant. And yes, it is quite old, 20 years or more.
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