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Simon Voorwinde
most recent 3 APR SHOW ALL
Initial post 31 JUL 17 by Patricia Routley
Something odd about those US patent photos.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 31 JUL 17 by Simon Voorwinde
Odd that they are in the U.S. to begin with????
Reply #2 of 2 posted 3 APR by Rupert, Kim L.
Isn't it? What's your experience been with Brindabella Glow, Simon?
most recent 6 MAR SHOW ALL
Initial post 20 SEP 13 by Simon Voorwinde
I have never understood why so many people have chosen to 'favourite' this seedling of mine... it's just a single, pink, once flowering, mulitflora-like rose *shrugs* and the only person to ever see it in person is a friend of mine in NSW, Australia, who was sent a plant of it a few years back... 'tis is a mystery.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 21 SEP 13 by Margaret Furness
Probably the webspider again; it selects roses with no Buy From and/or Garden listings.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 21 SEP 13 by Simon Voorwinde
I'm not sure what you mean by a webspider, Margaret? A search engine can spider a website to index it for searching but it cannot interact with it and do things like activate a favourites button. It must be people doing it... but I just don't understand why?
Reply #5 of 4 posted 6 MAR by Plazbo
I do it because the favourite list doesn't seem to have a limit (that I've hit anyway) while the watch list has (or did for me anyway). Its just easy to favourite a rose of interest to come back to it later.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 8 DEC 14 by Salix
All things said, I wonder what this rose will do crossed with a Rugosa or moss. Note the high gland count on the stems and buds. MORjerry (according to Kim) is the only un-stinky Rugos moss- supposedly the polyantha, and thus multiflora blood. Maybe worth trying, if only because.
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Initial post 22 AUG 11 by Simon Voorwinde

This variety arose from controlled pollination of two unnamed seedlings. " :(

Reply #1 of 9 posted 22 JUN 12 by Vladimír Ježovič
It´s the same as parentage unknow.
Reply #2 of 9 posted 22 JUN 12 by Simon Voorwinde
It's not the same... the hybridiser would likely have a record of what the lineage of the un-named seedling was and it was the result of a planned cross. This might have been done to protect intellectual property rights or to disguise the lineage for marketting purposes.. for example it might detrimentally affect the sales of a rose in Australia if one was to advertise the fact that 'Rhapsody in Blue' was a parent of one of the seedlings as RiB in general does quite poorly here.
Reply #3 of 9 posted 27 JUN 12 by Margaret Furness
Rhapsody in Blue seems to be position-dependent - it does fine in my slightly acid clay soil, Mediterranean climate, zone 9b. On its own roots.
Reply #4 of 9 posted 30 JUN 12 by Simon Voorwinde
'Rhapsody in Blue' is own-root and on acid soil here as well; deep red soil. It's in a prime location. Every summer, without fail, it goes dormant and loses all its leaves only to make a new batch in autumn. It grows ok, if you can ignore this trait but its not really something I think Aussie gardeners are after as we spend a large proportion of our time outdoors in our gardens in summer. It's a nice colour, but I think it is completely unsuitable for Australian conditions. It's descendant, 'Wild Rover', is exactly the same down here.

P.S. did you get my email, Margaret, thanking you for the HRiA journals?
Reply #5 of 9 posted 1 JUL 12 by Margaret Furness
Yes, I did thanks - a bit hectic at present, hence the delayed reply!
Reply #7 of 9 posted 25 FEB by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Rhapsody in Blue seems to be very temperature dependent, actually. I think it's the temperature above about 80 degrees Fahrenheit (27 degrees in Celsius) that induces a type of dormancy in that rose. I grew it in a marine fog bank in coastal SoCal and it did just great there all summer long at average temps of about 75, but moving it out of the fog bank and to areas just a few degrees warmer induced that summer dormancy thing it does, all in very similar soil types.
Reply #8 of 9 posted 25 FEB by Margaret Furness
It doesn't defoliate at all in my no-spray garden. Mediterranean climate, hot dry summers, occasionally above 100F / 38C. Not flowering at present (late summer) but I haven't deadheaded it. I would regard it as a robust rose, and am surprised to hear that others have problems with it.
Reply #9 of 9 posted 25 FEB by Michael Garhart
Stormy Weather loves heat, and you can prune it to stay as a shrub. I mean, if you like RiB but hate that it cries as soon as the sun comes out.
Reply #6 of 9 posted 24 FEB by Michael Garhart
Often times "seedling" is a known variety, or a simple cross of 2 known varieties. It's uncommon for a "seedling" to be a complex hybrid.

On rare occasion, unknown is known, but masked for protective reasons. But often is truly unknown. It's a real pain.

In quite rare cases, the seedling is not only known, but given or sold to a breeder by another breeder, and it is either masked or stated as their own unique lineage. This is more common from country to country, rather than within any given country.
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Initial post 4 JAN 14 by Simon Voorwinde
How's the health of this one, Michael?
Reply #1 of 4 posted 5 JAN 14 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
I can vouch for no powdery mildew on this one -- completely clean that way.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 6 JAN 14 by Michael Garhart
It seemed healthy enough. I don't know about its disease resistance, but the fade resistance is really great, and the plant looks way better than Julia Child. The vigor looked okay, too.

It does descend from two lines of roses that are known for soft wood and hating wet soils, but it seems fine so far. We will see.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 6 JAN 14 by Simon Voorwinde
'Julia Child' has been powdery mildew-proof here. It spots a little on the lower foliage and downy mildew has made its presence felt. If this one is an improvement on it that's a great thing. Have you tested its fertility (either way) yet? 'Julia Child' seems to set seed with most things. It's new here this year so I don't know how well its seeds germinate but given how often it has been used I can't see a problem there. It even worked with Harisonii pollen! This one (Sparkle & Shine) has just hit Australia and may be released in the next few years.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 24 FEB by Michael Garhart
It sets seed, and has been slightly winter tender, but fine enough. It actually smells good, which was surprising to realize.
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