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RoseGolden Threshold ™ most recent 24 DEC 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 9 SEP 08 by bob diller

I just posted two pics of this rose, one of it's wicked thorns, and another of it's huge hips. It has the larges hips I've seen on a rose other than the chestnut rose. The new canes this year were thick, stiff and untrainable, but I am going to bend them down as much as I can without breaking them off so they bloom along their length next year. This rose should be planted where it can grow unchecked and unpruned into a huge natural shaped bush. I have just such a place in the backyard where it can fill in around the base of a tree I have Kiftsgate slowly climbing up.

Reply #1 of 9 posted 9 SEP 08 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

Reply #2 of 9 posted 10 SEP 08 by bob diller

It has been very disease resistant, surprisingly, given that is a Golden Showers kid, and that one turned black from blackspot and finally died when I grew it in Pennsylvania. Golden Threshold has been very resistant and it has two blackspot prone roses growing intertwined among its canes, Eden and The Alchymist, both of which got a good amount of blackspot this year but seem to have been unable to pass on a heavy infection to Golden Threshold, though it showed a few speckles here and there, but nothing of real note. If something is prone to blackspot, it wil be apparent very soon in my garden, as I do no spraying and just let disease pick the best roses out of all the ones I try. About one in four or five turn out to be superior roses for organic growing, even with all the hours of research I do before plunking money down on a new rose to try.

Reply #3 of 9 posted 10 SEP 08 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

Reply #4 of 9 posted 12 SEP 08 by HMF supporting member

Gene Jax

Reply #5 of 9 posted 13 SEP 08 by bob diller

No repeat seen here, but I did not deadhead it. It is adjacent to Crepuscule, Meidiland Alba, Eden, Secret Garden Musk, Lavender Lassie, The Generous Gardener and Souvenir de Madame Leonie Viennot, and I'm kind of hoping the bees crossed some of them with her for me, as it is covered now in huge ripening hips and I'm more excited to plant those seeds than anticipating rebloom. I have enough rebloomers around that others that do not for one reason or another are OK with me. I've gotten some very cool things from open pollinated hips before.

Reply #7 of 9 posted 16 SEP 08 by HMF supporting member

Gene Jax

I have emailed Girija and Viru Viraraghavan. Because of its incredible vigor and size, they think it is a rose for connoisseurs who have space. They say regarding rebloom on Golden Threshold:

"Golden Threshold flowers on one-year old wood so there will be no flowers the first year. From the second year onwards there will be flowering provided pruning is done correctly, i.e., retaining all healthy old wood. It is also important to train the plant properly, bending over the long shoots to as horizontal a position as possible. In Kodaikanal mature plants flower periodically throughout the year."

Reply #6 of 9 posted 13 SEP 08 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

Mine hasn't bloomed yet either Gene but then my climate isn't the best for gigantea and it's hybrids. I've got my fingers crossed for next Spring. My specimen is already two years old.	REPLY

Reply #8 of 9 posted 24 DEC 22 by HMF supporting member

MiGreenThumb

Thank you for sharing the good quality pictures! However, those prickles are far from wicked. The picture you shared looks fairly average and expected. Great to hear the disease resistance is excellent too.	REPLY

Reply #9 of 9 posted 24 DEC 22 by HMF supporting member

Nastarana

'Golden Celebration' also has huge hips, which look like small green crabapples. I am glad to hear you are growing 'Alba Meidiland', IMHO, one of the best roses introduced in the late 20thC. It seems to grow anywhere from zone 5 to 10 or 11.	REPLY

RoseMannington Cascade most recent 12 DEC 21 SHOW ALL

Initial post 17 FEB 09 by bob diller

Reply #1 of 2 posted 11 DEC 21 by HMF supporting member

strickland

In her book, "Ramblers", Anne Belovich says this is a wichurana hybrid.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 DEC 21 by Marlorena

..sold here as a Multiflora rambler.. I've posted some photos of it..	REPLY

RoseLavender Lassie (Hybrid Musk, Kordes, 1960) most recent 17 MAY 21 SHOW ALL

Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest

Reply #1 of 5 posted 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest

This rose does very well in my area, near the ocean and the only problem is with rust and that's preety much my fault for watering it too much, you can find this rose at

http://www.regannursery.com/roses/detail.lasso?ID=351

which is where i ordered it from, as with most rose orders, you can only order from late november to the end of the year, this place has always shipped me healthy plants with large canes....... good luck, its a beautiful rose....

Valleyforge Ocean View Rose Garden

Reply #2 of 5 posted 9 JUL 06 by Portlandrose

Reply #3 of 5 posted 11 JAN 08 by bob diller

I find Lavender Lassie to be blackspot tolerant. It gets it, but it's vigorous enough to far outgrow the effects of it. The flowers are lovely and perhaps a clematis planted with it wil give it the look of more leaves and be acceptable. A blue clematis would look smashing with it. I got mine from Roses Unlimited, own root and its been growing fine for me now for 2 years. I have it growing up and over a Meidiland Alba which is a disease free champ, so there are plenty of leaves when Lavender Lassie loses a few to black spot.

Reply #4 of 5 posted 4 FEB 14 by VictoriaRosa

I have found it to be very disease-resistant in my Zone 8, cool rainy winters, mild dry summers, zone. It may have gotten a little blackspot, but not so I really noticed.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 5 posted 17 MAY 21 by Gdisaz10

Yes it is very resistant and if on its own roots an excellent climber!	REPLY

RoseChianti most recent 22 NOV 20 SHOW ALL

Initial post 12 JAN 08 by bob diller

How is Chianti in regards to black spot. I have an organic garden and don't spray. I have admired photo's of this rose for years and would like to add it to my garden. I live smack in the middle of the black spot belt in the Southeast US.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 SEP 16 by cakemiks

Reply #2 of 2 posted 22 NOV 20 by HMF supporting member

Michael Garhart

In the early 2000s, this rose showed up grafted with other Austins at a local high end nursery in the Portland Metro. They were defoliated by June in their huge pots. Looking back, I can't recall if it was from black spot or downy. They look alike at that time of year here. It's too hard to inspect things up close at nurseries. I recall this because it was my first time seeing it and my impression was "ew...".