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Initial post 6 AUG 17 by Darrell
This photo is not from the 1922 American Rose Annual. I own the book. It is not listed in the contents of plates. Nor could I find it when I went through the book page by page. Nor is it in the 1921 or 1923 annual. Perhaps it's from The Rose Annual of England?
Reply #1 of 5 posted 7 AUG 17 by Margaret Furness
It's not in the list of illustrations in the 1922 Rose Annual.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 7 AUG 17 by Patricia Routley
It might be R. hugonis from the 1916 American Rose Annual p32?

The photo was used in McFarland's 1937 Roses of the World in Colour p176 and labelled there Rosa multibracteata.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 7 AUG 17 by Rupert, Kim L.
Thanks, Darrell, Margaret and Patricia. I scanned the image some time ago and don't have access to my books as they are packed in the garage where I can't get to them. I don't have the 1916 ARS annual but do have the McFarland book. I posted a number of scanned images in an evening and probably mis labeled this one while labeling the bunch.
Reply #4 of 5 posted 25 SEP by CybeRose
1920 ARA.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 25 SEP by Rupert, Kim L.
Thank you, Karl.
most recent 27 AUG HIDE POSTS
Initial post 27 AUG by Darrell
There seems to be a contradiction or error in the category of Breeders under Verdier, Philippe-Victor. The information states that Charles is the younger son (born 1824) and Eugene the elder (born 1827). Either the birth dates are incorrect or the sequence of siblings is incorrect. But Eugene is also called " fils aine", meaning the elder sibling. Also under "Verdier fils aine, Eugene," he is stated to be the elder son but born in 1827. Since several of the quoted sources also state that Eugene is the eldest, the birth dates for one or both brothers seems incorrect.
most recent 11 JUN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 11 JUN by Darrell
Re: Rosa bracteata, the Macartney Rose: Why is the date given as 1765 for Lord Macartney's discovery (actually it was George Staunton's discovery) when he did not see the rose until 1793 on his mission to China?
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Initial post 29 JAN by Darrell
According to Simon & Cochet (1906) there are or were TWO different 'Princesse de Nassau' roses, the one a moschata bred by Laffay (pale yellow) and one a gallica or alba bred by Miellez (deep pink). If that is so, then you need to include a second listing for the latter. The reference you have from Les Roses Cultivee a L'Hay en 1902 substantiates that. (However, Simon & Cochet clearly got the date wrong for Laffay's rose.)
Reply #1 of 4 posted 29 JAN by Patricia Routley
We might already have the gallica one listed - as Prince de Nassau

I am afraid I just cannot see the listing for 'Princesse de Nassau' from Les Roses Cultivee a L'Hay en 1902 in my paper copy. I have had a good peer with the magnifying glass and it is certainly not on p103 (which are moss roses anyway) Theoretically it should be on p97 under Noisettes.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 11 APR by Darrell
A belated reply:
in I quote from Gravereaux's Les roses cultivees a l'Hay en 1902:

Page 103, Section V--Provins: Princesse de Naussau (Miellez) rose fonce.

Page 159 Section I--Moschata: Princesse de Nassau (Laffay) jaune paille
Reply #4 of 4 posted 12 APR by Patricia Routley
Because of the 1936 reference in the 'Prince de Nassau' file, I have added the synonym of 'Princesse de Nassau' to that file. (Now I know why I couldn't find it. My Roseraie de l' Hay catalogue is 1900. Yours is 1902.)
Thanks Darrell.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 30 JAN by Nastarana
I grew a moschata hybrid rose named 'Princesse de Nassau'. It was one of the most satisfactory garden plants I have ever grown. The flowers, foliage and bush were all exceptionally attractive, repeat bloom was rapid throughout the growing season and there was a moderate fragrance. Alas, not hardy colder than about USDA zone 7 I would think. It is about the size and shape of a typical white floribunda and, for me, was a much better plant than most of the later florries.
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