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Last year I wanted to find a rose that was similar in form and color to the Hybrid Tea rose called First Prize. The one I have had for years has never bloomed we'll and I wanted to find another like it. I paid for Premium membership with Help Me Find and went to the linage section for information on First Prize and was completely confused about ploidy. i think I looked up the term in the glossery and didnt find it, I cant remember. I do remember trying to learn that term and not succeeding. Since I could not get past that page unless I knew what ploidy First Prize was and put in that information, I never found a similar rose or learned how to get information from the linage section. I then got busy with illness in my family and didnt do anything further, now my year is over. I have recently looked up the term ploidy and now know what that is but still I do not know what ploidy the First Prize rose is. I don't mind giving money to the Help Me Find site since it is a very good place to look up roses and get information but I would like to know what I need to learn in order to use this site. Can someone help me?
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I think you'd do better to decide what it is you like about First Prize, and search for roses with those features, using Advanced Search. Ploidy is mainly of interest to researchers or people wanting to breed from a rose, and isn't relevant to choice of a plant for the garden.
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#2 of 4 posted
25 APR 13 by
Frhoden
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Thank you, I know that you are right. It just took someone else telling me besides myself. I like First Prize for it's urn like shape, it's unusual pink color and I recently realized that the fewer petal count that it has along with it's size in bud length allows you to see that long bodied urn shape better. I will continue to pay membership and review the site as well as enjoy all the information HMF has. I have just planted Queen Elizabeth, Elizabeth Taylor and Marigke Koopman. Not sure they are similar to First Prize but they are beautiful pink roses and have some notoriaty. We will see.
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Roses of that vintage which have caught my eye or nose, usually when I was looking for something older in old gardens, are Sylvia, Tiffany, Eiffel Tower, First Love. It's not a group I have any expertise in.
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#4 of 4 posted
26 APR 13 by
 Jay-Jay
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You might try a very big pink HT and with a good scent: Parole.
Or a bit smaller Beverly.
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In the glossary terms, the explanation for roses that have three sets of complete chromosomes is spelled as tripoloid (with an o after the p). Shouldn't that be spelled as triploid without the o after the p?
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How do you pronounce the name of this rose? Does this rose do well in hot climates which has been our climate the last two years here in Oklahoma City!
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#1 of 2 posted
15 APR 13 by
Seil
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I believe it's pronounced Ma-ree-ka but I'm not positive.
I'm a zone cooler but it does very well in the heat of my summer. We can go into the low 100s some days and this rose does not seem to fry or dry up. The petals are quite substantial.
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#2 of 2 posted
16 APR 13 by
Jay-Jay
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It is a Dutch name. The "ij" in Marijke sounds almost like the "Ei" in the German Eisen (for Iron).
"ke" at the end of the name means little... so Little Marij (from Maria) Almost 18.000 girls and woman carry that first name in the Netherlands.
The double "oo" in Koopman almost sounds like the "oe" in Joe. And "man" sounds like the German "Mann" in the town Mannheim.
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I have had this rose for 3 or 4 years and it's color always delights me. It is not red or pink. It is a color all it's own. It is almost irridescent! I have remarked that it seems to have a light turned on inside it. The next thing that has to be said is that the blooms stay so very long on the bush and they keep their color and form. Another thing is the form of the bloom is so very nice, that tight, coiled center that stays for so long and then eventually opens to show the stamens. It is a good bloomer. It does not have a fragrance that I have noticed and does have to be sprayed for fungus here in Oklahoma.
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#1 of 1 posted
30 MAY 10 by
Kittykat
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This bush has beautiful flowers, and they do stay on the bush a long time, but in my experience the blooms fade when they get old. The color is unusual, the petals have beautiful curves.
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