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Patsy Cunningham 
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It appears that the variety being sold as Kitchener of Khartoum is incorrect .It is a single according to the older sources or at most a semi double. Does anyone know a source that fits that description?
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#1 of 1 posted
2 FEB 14 by
Darrell
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The photo of 'K of K' in The Rose Annual of 1917 (England), the year the rose was introduced, shows two blooms, both of them clearly semi-double with 12 or 13 petals.
Of all the sources listed in References here, only one (1925) describes it as single. All others describe it as semi-single or semi-double.
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According to the Kordes website, this rose has an ADR from 1999.
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#1 of 3 posted
16 JUN 09 by
jedmar
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I bought it from Ashdown some years ago. The alternative name on the original tag is Sweet Vigorosa
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Hi, if you look on the main (first tab) of any plant listing, the name is listed in the heading and the various synonyms are listed just below the "Availability:" section.
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Beautiful rose, but I'm finding Kordes roses hate even a little shade during the day. This rose has taken 5 years to get 4 feet tall. It and Dublin Bay both need moved, but I really am pretty lazy about relocating roses once they are planted. I always look at the roses that overcome some of the poor locations I've given them and wonder why some do splendid regardless, and others seem unable to cope with a less than perfect location. I will say, multiflora ramblers are my pick for less than ideal locations, they seem to have vigor to spare and bloom like crazy with as little as 5 hours sun a day.
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Thanks for your participation Bob. Your insights are a valuable addition to the site.
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Not sure about other Kordes roses, but 'Summer wine' grows wildly here, even in its partly shaded spot in our yard. Grows long thin flexible canes and ability to cover a trellis. Perfectly hardy in zone 6 here. 'Green apple' smell like 'City of York'. roots fairly easily. Will rebloom only if completely deadhead after June bloom
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I'm sorry to say my own-root Summer Wine's repeat has been poor so far here in my low desert climate. I grow many singles and so far this one has been a bit of a disappointment.
The blossoms blow fairly quickly, rangy growth habit, vicious prickles. I also discovered just a bit of Powdery Mildew last season. I do enjoy the fragrance which is a bit unusual.
This is one of those roses that will reach out and grab you as you walk past. It's not a rose to plant anywhere near a garden path.
Obviously it's an excellent performer for some. I'm guessing it prefers cooler climates. I'll likely donate mine with several other things to the upcoming Ventura Rose Society Auction.
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12 OCT 12 by
mtspace
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Bob, to your point regarding multiflora climbers and shade, I planted Psyche, a multiflora rambler as a band from Vintage Gardens this spring, hoping that it, like the other bands I received, might survive the season, set roots and maybe start growing in year two or three as is usually the case with own-root roses in my garden. But by the end of the season it had three canes each twelve feet in length, this despite the fact that it gets five hours sun, tops. If it were to multiply in size at the same rate next year and the year after, by the third or fourth year it would stretch hundreds of feet in every direction! I've never had to worry about that before. I'm hoping instead that it starts to bloom. The Garland probably does not get an hour of sun per day and it grew from 14 inches to six feet in one season. No bloom from it either, but the trees shading both of these roses are short enough that I expect both to grow out of their shade and enjoy many more hours in the sun, at least at the height of summer.
The sun was shining on the spot where I planted it when I put it in the ground, but through its first season I learned that Summer Wine got no more than five hours of sun per day. I feared that it would dwindle away to nothing by the end of the season, but it has continued to grow slowly. It's still not yet waist high, though, so I understand that it really needs more sun than would a typical multiflora rambler. It behaves as if it is quite satisfied living in zone 7b, but it has not been through one of our thrilling spring freeze-thaw roller-coaster rides yet. I know I must move it, and it's good to know it should be far from a path. I wonder, would it look good next to, say Graham Thomas? Or would one rose's color overpower the other's?
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This rose was found at Old North Cemetery in Hartford, Connecticut by a headstone marked Mary Lantry. If anyone has any information about this rose's identification, please contact me.
Andy Vanable
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Marci Martin, who found it, says it is extremely fragrant.
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#2 of 10 posted
11 MAR 12 by
Cà Berta
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It remands me very much of Duc de Cambridge, an old damask by Laffay ..
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It does look like Duc de Cambridge
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Duc de Cambridge is darker and doesn't have the yellow button eye. This rose is about the size of a small mcintosh apple and is a one time bloomer.
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What about Désirée Parmentier?
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May be 'Aimable Amie'?
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The Old North Rose has a lot more petals and has a round form. Thanx, though!
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The color seems a lot darker, but it could be the lighting. I'll post more pix in June! Thank you!
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The photo is the same as Aimable Amy...too dark, but thank you.
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The photo is the same as Aimable Amy...too dark, but thank you.
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