HELPMEFIND PLANTS COMMERCIAL NON-COMMERCIAL RESOURCES EVENTS PEOPLE RATINGS
|
|
-
-
Heirloom --- the jerks -- have changed the name on this one. I HATE when they do that. Argh! But we better list it. They want this rose to be called "Moonlight in Paris." While I'm sure that is a good marketing name, it just adds confusion UNLESS they get the original introducer and the ARS to change the name for exhibition purposes BEFORE they do it themselves.. Now people will buy the rose under that name and get disqualified in shows when they try to show it under that name.
See, https://www.heirloomroses.com/moonlight-in-paris.html
|
REPLY
|
Thank you Kathy. Added.
|
REPLY
|
Actually, I see Edmunds is also calling it Moonlight in Paris. Maybe 'Garden and Home' just didn't have enough zip to it. It is a pretty boring name (probably named for a magazine?)
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#3 of 8 posted
23 FEB 23 by
StefanDC
It's important to remember that all of these fanciful "names" are actually trade designations, and not names at all--in fact, the ARS does itself a great disservice as ICRA for the genus by referring to exhibition "names" when those approved "names" are frequently trade designations instead. These are not to be regarded as, or confused with, cultivar epithets under the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants, which the ARS is obliged to follow as ICRA. Known trade designations should also always be displayed along with the cultivar epithet.
It would be far better for the ARS to fulfill its obligations under the ICNCP by better and more consistently emphasizing that there is only one accepted name for each cultivar, consisting of a true cultivar epithet, which is to be indicated by enclosure within single quotation marks. Likewise, trade designations should ideally be displayed in different typeface or otherwise set apart from the cultivar epithet, and must never be enclosed in single quotation marks. For this cultivar, 'Delanac' is the correct name. The others are technically meaningless proprietary trade designations that may be employed freely only in a non-commercial context as a matter of "fair use." Proprietary trade designations are bereft of any true connection to the actual cultivar; the owner of such a designation may apply it to as many different varieties as desired, to change the designation or designations that it uses for a cultivar however it sees fit, and of course, there is no limit to the number of trade designations that a single cultivar may be sold under.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#4 of 8 posted
23 FEB 23 by
jedmar
The Approved Exhibition Name by the ARS is so last-century! No one outside of USA cares. It's time the Guidelines for Judging Roses are revised and simplified, if the ARS doesn't want to end up as an anachrony.
|
REPLY
|
This comment by me was 5 years ago. In the meantime, Bob Martin, who handled these things for the ARS until he passed, did change this rule. I believe that roses in ARS shows can now be shown under any name used to market them, including this rose, now commonly known in the USA as Moonlight in Paris.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#6 of 8 posted
23 FEB 23 by
Lee H.
“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet…”
I doubt the Bard ever imagined modern marketing. What I will say is that it has been a very good rose in my garden, and it probably would never have had the chance, but for the fact that Heirloom capitalized on an equally good name.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#7 of 8 posted
24 FEB 23 by
StefanDC
Good on ARS for making at least that much of an adjustment--does it now insist on the use of the actual cultivar name as well? That would be a much more substantial improvement than simply allowing the use of any marketing designation (which is by definition not a name).
|
REPLY
|
Pretty much anything you use that identifies the rose will be allowed now.
|
REPLY
|
-
-
Re: parentage, according the Jackson & Perkins catalog/web site it's a cross of Melodie Parfume'e and New Zealand.
|
REPLY
|
Have you had a chance to smell it? -It's parent "Melodee Perfume" is one of my favorite rose scents, but is said to be "stingy" in blooms after initial spring flush. J&P claims it has a great scent, but doesn't go into much detail. --I'm weighing it against "Sweet Intoxication" (also with Melodee P. parentage). Given Intoxication's 40 member "excellent" rating, it might be the better choice!
|
REPLY
|
I have grown this for several years and the scent is very strong, on par with other heavily scented lavender roses
|
REPLY
|
-
-
Initial post
25 FEB 04 by
Unregistered Guest
Could you please tell me if Lavender Lassie is resistant to black spot or other diseases? Also, I would like to know where I could find this rose.
Thanks!
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#1 of 5 posted
25 FEB 04 by
Unregistered Guest
This rose does very well in my area, near the ocean and the only problem is with rust and that's preety much my fault for watering it too much, you can find this rose at
http://www.regannursery.com/roses/detail.lasso?ID=351
which is where i ordered it from, as with most rose orders, you can only order from late november to the end of the year, this place has always shipped me healthy plants with large canes....... good luck, its a beautiful rose....
Valleyforge Ocean View Rose Garden
|
REPLY
|
Heirloomroses.com carries it own-root.
|
REPLY
|
I find Lavender Lassie to be blackspot tolerant. It gets it, but it's vigorous enough to far outgrow the effects of it. The flowers are lovely and perhaps a clematis planted with it wil give it the look of more leaves and be acceptable. A blue clematis would look smashing with it. I got mine from Roses Unlimited, own root and its been growing fine for me now for 2 years. I have it growing up and over a Meidiland Alba which is a disease free champ, so there are plenty of leaves when Lavender Lassie loses a few to black spot.
|
REPLY
|
I have found it to be very disease-resistant in my Zone 8, cool rainy winters, mild dry summers, zone. It may have gotten a little blackspot, but not so I really noticed.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#5 of 5 posted
17 MAY 21 by
Gdisaz10
Yes it is very resistant and if on its own roots an excellent climber!
|
REPLY
|
-
-
Does anyone know if this rose would do well in a large pot? Thanks.
|
REPLY
|
Unless you live in cold climate, I think this is way too large and vigorous for a pot. But I could be wrong -- with proper pruning, and a REALLY big pot, it could work.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#2 of 2 posted
28 JUN 19 by
kgs
I have EVS planted in a really big pot since ca. February, and it's doing great. By big, I mean ca. 18" in diameter. There is an EVS across the street trained over an arch and it's huge, but this one is happy enough and the pot buys me time for a year or two while I figure out the backyard.
|
REPLY
|
|
|