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Robert Neil Rippetoe
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Initial post yesterday by Maurizio Usai
Are you sure this is Manipur Magic? It looks more like 'Evergreen Gene' to me :) - just another wonderful rose.
Reply #1 of 6 posted yesterday by Izzy Garden
That's what the tag said from the vendor. I don't know if Evergreen Gene is available here in the US;)
Reply #2 of 6 posted today by Maurizio Usai
It could be possible that they received budwood of EG rather than MMagic. Have a look at the pictures of EG and compare them with your rose :)
Reply #3 of 6 posted today by Robert Neil Rippetoe

I supplied material for both these varieties to U.S. nurseries.

They are both wonderful. I'm not sure myself but you could be correct.

Best wishes, Robert
Reply #4 of 6 posted today by Maurizio Usai
Thank you Robert! Just looking at Manipur Magic pictures because I want to plant it in my garden, and noticed that the rose in two of the pictures looked familiar :)
Reply #5 of 6 posted today by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Yes, they are similar. Manipur Magic tend to be more double, more quartered. I think if we could get a better look at the buds up close it might be easier to make a determination. Of course we could ask Viru.
Reply #6 of 6 posted today by Maurizio Usai
I saw the second, close-up picture and noticed that the outer petals have a coppery/pink shade which is typical of EG. The leaves of EG are not tipically Gigantea, much rounded in shape and coarser in texture.
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Initial post 11 days ago by Michael Garhart
Probably the other Sea Foam as a pollen parent.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 10 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
You're no doubt right Michael, but, it would be more interesting if it wasn't!?
Reply #2 of 2 posted 10 days ago by Michael Garhart
Yes, lol. Which is exactly why I found this error :[
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Initial post 22 SEP by CybeRose
All About Miniature Roses (1967) 
Ralph S. Moore
Chapter 18 — Searching for Better Varieties

When I began my work with miniatures it was a natural step because I had long been interested in small flowered roses. Cecil Brunner was a favorite. Then about 1927 I acquired a little polyantha variety called Étoile Luisante (Baby Herriot). This rose was not very double but had buds similar to Cecil Brunner in form and the color was a beautiful flame of cerise-red and copper shaded with pink and yellow. Foliage was glossy and the plant had few thorns. The dwarf plants flowered abundantly in clusters. Seed hips set easily and seeds germinated readily.

The stage was set. I began to sow quantities of seeds from this variety and found that the color range was wide. Flower color varied from near white to soft yellow through various shades of pink and flame tones. A few showed the red/yellow bicolor similar to Talisman. Some were low to medium height bushes. Many were of climbing or semi-climbing habit. Nearly all were constant repeat bloomers. A number set seeds as freely as the parent, Étoile Luisante. Most of the climbers were single flowered and nearly all seedlings were fragrant.

After making several selections from the seedlings the others were destroyed. Of those saved three were named (all climbers). Renae(Pat. 893) was introduced by Armstrong Nurseries, Ontario, California. Renae is available on weeping standard from Stocking Rose Nursery, San Jose, California. It is similar to Climbing Pinkie, very fragrant, an abundant bloomer with clean glossy foliage and thornless. For mild climates Renae is a lovely rose but it is along with most of the others selected from the lot, not dependably winter hardy in colder areas.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 SEP by Robert Neil Rippetoe
This reference confirms the parentage of 'Renae' and it's Sister seedlings as shared with me personally by Ralph Moore.

Others seemed to think he had forgotten the parentage, perhaps because of his advanced age at the time.

(There are other references stating parentage as shown at HMF.)

I still have good faith he knew very well what he was saying, as evidenced here.
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Initial post 18 SEP by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Did you get this one from the CCRS auction? I think it may have come from me.

Looking great there for you.

Thanks, Robert
Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 SEP by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Nope, I got it from Eurodesert, a long time ago. But thanx anyway for the contribution to CCRS auction, and for a further chance to plug it here, lol. Our "Save the Roses CCRS 17th Annual Rare and Unusual Rose Auction" is the weekend of Oct. 20 to Oct. 22, 2017 in Carlsbad, California, and if you can't get to California, we do take internet bids and ship within the US at whatever time of year you specify. More info and a list of the roses we have this year can be found on our website.
The roses we have change every year, but we always try to have Simsalabim.
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