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Robert Neil Rippetoe
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Initial post 12 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I'm getting an error message when selecting for "parentage bloodline" with certain varieties, such as 'Watercolors Home Run'.

Thank you, Robert.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 12 days ago by Patricia Routley
Me too.
Admin, can you take a look please.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 8 days ago by HMF Admin
Robert, there is a circular lineage reference we need to research and resolve. At issue are 'RAD95-1016.17' and 'Morning Magic' lineage
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 8 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Understood.

There are others. I ran into a couple more awhile back. No doubt the same issues were at fault.

Thanks for your efforts. Robert
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RoseJACtan
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Initial post 27 MAY 09 by Jeff Britt
Neighbors of mine has this planted in their front garden. The house is modern and the front garden was obviously "designed" by a landscape architect using only evergreen shrubs and no flowers, except a large plant of Butterscotch. The plant always seems to have some flowers on it from April until December. The flower color is certainly interesting. It is not to my taste, but in this setting it is striking and quite beautiful. I can't imagine trying to combine it's unearthly colors with other roses and flowers, but it is an arresting sight on its own.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 27 MAY 09 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I confess I love the color. I've bred several things from it. It's an easy parent.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 28 MAY 09 by Jeff Britt
It's just such a weird color! It's very had to even describe. It reminds me of so many Legrice roses -- fascinating, bizarre and unearthly colors that change with temperature conditions and light. Butterscotch will undoubtably make some fascinating seedlings. You have more courage than I would.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 28 MAY 09 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Yes, it's a weird color. It was a favorite of the hybridizer but never caught on with much of the public. From what I can gather disease resistance is average, at best, but it's never mildewed for me which is saying something.

Most offspring were/are unremarkable. Most yellow and a few mauve or russet with probably half climbers. It could be explored much further but I don't have the space or time.


Some of the best colors came out of 'Smoky' as pollen parent but all mildew to some degree.

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=66744&tab=1

I will reveal all parentages in time. If you'd like to see other seedlings out of Cl. Butterscotch contact me directly.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 24 JAN 11 by Darli
I am hunting for Butterscotch Climber aka JACtan. I like the almost "paperbag" shade I see in photographs. I would like to add it to a mostly green garden area, but darn I can't find a plant source. I do have some rootstock ready for grafting in my Victoria BC garden. Bu I also have a garden in Arizona where my roses do amazingly well. Can you provife me with a sourcee for cuttings or plants? Thanks, kindly. Darlene White
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 25 JAN 11 by Lyn G
Please click the HOW DO I button at the top of the page to learn how to find the source of a rose.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 10 days ago by mamabotanica
It's now available from Grace Rose Farm. They have many usually colored roses.
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most recent 5 JAN SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 29 DEC by pminor
Hi i am seeking a U.S. source for adelaide d'orleans. You have this rose listed as in your garden. Can you refer me to your source for this beautiful rose?

Thanks so much. Love your pics!!
Pat
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 29 DEC by Hartwood
I had no idea that this rose isn't more widely available! I saw it all over in England. Mine came from Sequoia ten years ago. It's in a fairly wild portion of my garden ... I need to make sure that it's still there. If it is, I can share with you in the spring.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 29 DEC by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Sequoia got it from me. I honestly don't remember where I got it.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 4 JAN by pminor
That would be so cool!! I am happy to pay for postage for cuttings or rooted suckers. It is such a beautiful rose????
Just let me know. I certainly hope it is out there growing on its own. It is a tough rose. I look forward to hearing from you this dpring. Now I will be looking forward to spring!
Thanks so mich!!
Pat
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 4 JAN by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Sorry, I gave it to Sequoia and let mine go. It's very vigorous and takes up a lot of space. The blossoms are beautiful but of course it only blossoms once.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 4 JAN by pminor
Ah sorry to hear that. They are no longer in business l think

Oh well thank you for taking the time I appreciate it

Pat
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 4 JAN by Hartwood
Remind me in the spring, and I will take cuttings for you.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 5 JAN by pminor
Thanks so much! that is very kind of you and I will be sure to contact you in april.

I appreciate your help!!!
Pat Minor
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most recent 5 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 JAN by AquaEyes
I wonder if perhaps this rose is 'Superba' -- see below. And shouldn't this (by now) be merged with "Arcata Pink Globe"?

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.28626.0&tab=1

:-)

~Christopher
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 5 JAN by Patricia Routley
It probably should be merged Christopher. But then everybody seems to be saying "probably" in connection with this rose. Has anybody grown these two roses near to each other?
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 5 JAN by Robert Neil Rippetoe
See, 'Baltimore Belle'.

I believe they are synonymous.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 5 JAN by AquaEyes
They're not. What's happened is that some people have been growing "Arcata Pink Globe" aka "Moser House Shed Rose" and calling it 'Baltimore Belle'. The two are similar, except that 'Baltimore Belle' is never that pink. My 'Baltimore Belle' came from Vintage Gardens, and they also grew the pink "Arcata Pink Globe" aka "Moser Shed House Rose", so they saw them side by side.


My 'Baltimore Belle' in 2018
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.318814

And see attached close-up of a cluster from 2017 -- this is the pinkest 'Baltimore Belle' ever is, and it's fleeting.

:-)

~Christopher
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 5 JAN by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It could just be a vague color sport variation. It happens.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 5 JAN by AquaEyes
It could.....or it could be another seedling by the same breeder which was said to differ from 'Baltimore Belle' only in being pinker and with blooms slightly smaller....such as in the pic below.


"Arcata Pink Globe" and 'Baltimore Belle' side by side.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.257266

:-)

~Christopher
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 5 JAN by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Clonal variations occur frequently. They're close enough that it's a possibility.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 5 JAN by AquaEyes
I think it's more likely that Feast raised Setigera X Noisette seedlings beyond just 'Baltimore Belle', but that's the only one which survived with its name intact. Looking at the other Setigera Ramblers attributed to Feast, one can see others released which were also described as being "incarnate" -- to me that reads as "shades like those of old non-Tea Noisettes".

The other thing is that while the blooms look very similar, 'Baltimore Belle' isn't quite as "viciously vigorous" as "Arcata Pink Globe" / "Moser House Shed Rose" -- at least from what I've read. I don't grow both, just BB. From what I've read, "the pink one" couldn't be trained into the tree like I've done with BB because "the pink one" is too shrubby and dense at the base. But I'll have both at the cemetery eventually, so I'll be able to compare that myself.

I still think they're two different roses, but most likely full-siblings. Maybe even from the same hip.

:-)

~Christopher
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