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most recent 28 JUN 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 24 JAN 14 by Chris Greenwood
Hi -- Polo Club has now been reclassified as a Miniflora.

Thanks
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 24 JAN 14 by Patricia Routley
Thank YOU.
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 29 APR 15 by goncmg
If nothing else speaks to the randomness of class assignment, it would be Polo Club!!
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 30 APR 15 by Patricia Routley
Yes. Floribunda, hybrid tea, Mini-Flora are all mentioned in the reference.
It brings up a stupid mind-picture of a new baby borne at sea to an Italian father and a Norwegian mother.
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 30 APR 15 by goncmg
Patricia you crack me up!
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 30 APR 15 by Patricia Routley
Good. I love laughing.
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 30 APR 15 by Chris Greenwood
When Polo Club was introduced there was no such class as Miniflora. It's classification as a hybrid tea was strictly a marketing decision to round out the Beverly Hills Collection that was sold by Armstrong Roses.
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 28 JUN 16 by Michael Garhart
It doesn't have any relationship to genetic miniaturization, which is what makes it very odd. A purely aesthetic classification. Home Run, Watercolors Home Run, Take It Easy, and Candy Cane Cocktail (which shows genetics traits of ), have more of a true relation to that class. Yet, they are shrubs and floribundas.

Then again, American classifications are bizarre and manufactured to begin with. I would be happier with a descriptive system, closer to the UK. Or something not synthetic, like ours. But the societies and businesses fear Americans are too simple to change. Yet, there was absolutely no problem when Austin coined his own terms and took America by storm. No one had a problem learning a new term, it was innovative, and it really produced new rose industries in America.

A symptom of rose societies putting more emphasis on trophies and winning, than sharing a community experience. Rose shows very rarely reflect what is happening in the garden, or what is good for the garden. A massive disconnect! Main reason why I quit exhibiting. It's not real. And the numbers will get even worse. My generation typically rejects that type of idea. Rightfully so.

Too long; Didn't read version: Silly classification change to a pointless system.
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 28 JUN 16 by goncmg
No, not too long! Great post, I agree with all you wrote, we could go on forever!
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 28 JUN 16 by Michael Garhart
I would, but I'm afraid of starting arguments on here, and I love this place.
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most recent 19 JUN 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 22 APR 14 by Chris Greenwood
This variety was named in honor of the 2000 anniversary of the founding of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows on the North American Continent.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 23 APR 14 by Patricia Routley
So what is the bred date?
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 23 APR 14 by Chris Greenwood
The cross was made in 2007.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 23 APR 14 by Patricia Routley
Seven years after the 2000 anniversary it was named for?
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 23 APR 14 by Chris Greenwood
The bicentenary will be in 2019. Thomas Wildey founded the order in Baltimore.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 23 APR 14 by Patricia Routley
Oh gee I am silly. Thank you Chris. I think we are right now.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 19 JUN 15 by MrsTiff
Hello Chris..
Bellflower # 463 would like to know if and where we may purchase plantings for our hall. We'd appreciate being able to use your roses to honor a recently departed 50 yr member who loved roses and being a member.
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most recent 25 FEB 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 FEB 15 by Chris Greenwood
I just renewed. I can't access premium areas.

Chris
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 25 FEB 15 by HMF Admin
I've updated you member status manually and I'll have the support dept look into why the automated procedure did not update it immediately.
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most recent 20 APR 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 APR 14 by Chris Greenwood
When will you be adding newer varieties to the data base. Last summer I registered 'Odd Fellows' Bicentennial' and it's not listed.

Thanks
Chris
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 20 APR 14 by Patricia Routley
We've added 'Odd Fellows' Bicentennial' Chris. But it is better if breeders add their own roses to HelpMefind. The only reference I was able to find to your rose said it was [?] introduced in 2019. We've taken a guess that the seed parent was the HT (and not the polyantha) 'Gemini'. Only the breeder can know the exact details of their roses.
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