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Dominique Massad
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Initial post 1 OCT by Massad, Dominique
Dear administrator
Could you give me access to the records of the following varieties;
I would like to add some additional information.
Moreover, there seems to be a concern because I can not inform the parentage.
Best regards
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Anjou velo vintage
Au bonheur des dames
Belle de segosa
Bernard Mas
Centenaire de l’Haÿ-les-roses
Cepcor(rose Delacroix)
Chapeau de mireille
Charles de Nervaux
Château de Guillerval
Chloroph’iles
Chistian Tetedoie
Clair de plume
Credit mutuel
Diablesse de Mers
Dino de laurentis
Docteurs Massad
Domaine du couloubrier
Domaine Saint Jacques du Couloubrier
Durance ancian rosa
Elodie Gossuin
Eridion
Florian Massad
Frederic Mège
Froufroutante Jackie
Gil
Henri le sidaner
Irène Frain
Jardiniers du paradis
Jef l’artiste
Kizuna
La calissonne
La clé de la rose
Ladurée
Lamartine à Tresserves
Laurent Cabrol
L’élégante du Pyla
Les potes de Bedros
Les Yvelines
L’essile
Lettre à Nadine
Louis Francia
Ludivine Massad
Mamiethalène
Marceleine
Marie Bonnafoux-buisson
Marseille en fleurs
Michelle Bedrossian
Millard de martigny
Monique Darves
Monique Lestournelle
Nelson Monfort
Nimet
Notre Dame du rosaire
Parc de Maupassant
Pierre Dittiere
Pour l’amour d’un château
Prieuré de saint cosme
Reine sammut
Prix PJ R edouté
Rêve de Mireille
Rita des trois lucs
Rivedoux-plage
Rose de la paix
Roudelet felibren
Séduction picarde
Simone de vogüé
Solitude d’étincelles
Souvenir d’edouard Maubert
Thierry simon de Kergunic
Valchlea
Vallon raget`
Ventilo
Zoïc
Vicomtesse de curel
Xavier de Fraissinette
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Initial post 1 OCT by Massad, Dominique
Tis is not a variety Massad
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Initial post 30 SEP by Massad, Dominique
Mme sancy de parabère (Maiden name Charlotte Lavinie LEFEBVRE DESNOUETTES1815-1887) was a Dame d'honneur of the empress Eugénie , wife of NapoléonIII and not of Joséphine de Bauharnais, wife of Napoleon I
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 30 SEP by jedmar
Thank you, corrected! Still, it seems strange to name the rose after her in 1873, as Empress Eugénie was already exiled from France 3 years ago and the Baroness would have been 58 years old at the time. Isn't this rather late for a Dame d'Honneur? There was also a daughter Marie Ernestine Blanche Lefebvre de Sancy de Parabère, Born August 1, 1836, i.e. of the right age to become Dame d'Honneur in 1855.

Addenda: There is a painting of Franz Xaver Winterhalter of Empress Eugènie and her Dames d'Honneur from 1855. Mme de Sancy de Parabère is not one of them. But in the Armorial général of 1868, Charlotte Lavinie is mentioned as "Dame du Palais de S. M. l'Impératrice Eugénie".
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 OCT by Massad, Dominique
The picture of winterhalter shows that "les dames du palais" are not young women but women "of age wall".
Moreover, if the rose was dedicated to Mademoiselle Ernestine, Charlotte's daughter, she would have been called "Mademoiselle (Miss)" and not Madame. To know the reason for the dedication, it would be necessary to have more element on Bonnet, the introducer of the rose.
Perhaps it is related to the paranormal Sancy family or well, would he be a gardener of the castle of Boran, property of the family.

I researched the "Bonnet" which introduced the variety MMe sancy de Parabère.
In 1873, there is only one horticulturalist family bearing this name and installed in Vanves.

Louis Jean Julien BONNET was born in Croissy-sur-Seine (Department of Yvelines) on 21 June 1820 and died in Vanves (Hauts-de-Seine Department) on 23 September 1880.
In his death certificate, he is described as "horticulturist".
He married Elisabeth SAPOULIN in Paris on 1 December 1842.
They had two children:
- Elisa Félicité born on 4 July 1847 in Paris
- Louis Félix born on May 16, 1851 in Vaugirard near Paris, who succeeded his father as a horticulturist.
He seems not to have been married and I did not find the date of his death.

I have not yet found any connection with the Sancy de Parabère family.
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Initial post 30 SEP by Massad, Dominique
The real name is 'Domaine du Couloubrier' not 'couloubrieur'
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 30 SEP by jedmar
Thank you corrected! It is spelled wrong on the site of Novaspina.
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