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18 AUG 11 by
Re
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Help me please. help me. Ho molte delle mie rose infestate di oidio e non riesco a debellarlo. Le ho trattate da un paio di mesi con vari prodotti specifici...ma senza grandi risultati.....alcune si sono riprese (poche), mentre altre come la Mme alfred carriere e reine victoria non fioriscono più, e le foglie nuove, in pochi giorni sono gìà attecchite dalla malattia; alcune altre mi sono persino morte. Usando i prodotti ho stressato molto tutte le mie piante di rose che stentano a rifiorire. Vi prego di aiutarmi a trovare un rimedio e chiedo tra le altre se dovrei tagliare (e di quanto?) i rami che sono infestati dalla malattia?
Grazie
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#1 of 22 posted
19 AUG 11 by
 jedmar
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The hot and moist weather now is especially conducive for powdery mildew. I collect foliage which is strongly affected and spray new foliage with a mixture of 10% milk and 90% water (plus a drop of olive oil on a liter - to reduce surface tension of the droplets). Spraying is best early in the morning and not in full sun. If you have so much powdery mildew, you will have to repeat this regularly.
Il clima caldo e umido è oggi particolarmente favorevole per l'oidio. Raccolgo fogliame che è fortemente influenzata e spray fogliame nuovo con una miscela di latte 10% e 90% di acqua (più una goccia di olio d'oliva in un litro - per ridurre la tensione superficiale delle gocce). Spruzzo è meglio la mattina presto e non in pieno sole. Se si dispone di così tanto oidio, si dovrà ripetere regolarmente.
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#2 of 22 posted
20 AUG 11 by
Re
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Grazie per aver risposto, io vivo al sud dell'Italia dove il clima è particolarmente umido. oltre a raccogliere il fogliame dovrei accorciare anche i rami intaccati???? il mix che mi hai consigliato ogni quanti giorni lo devo spruzzare??? tieni conto che molte foglie sono ancora sui rami ma presentano nella parte inferiore della foglia, secchezza (se vuoi posso inviare una foto). Credo che sia oidio (?) anche se le piante (e sono tante) non presentano più la classica muffa bianca, ma le foglie come ho precedentemente detto, sono diventate, nella parte inferiore, color marrone (sembra come ci siano delle ragnatele). Aspetto con interesse una tua risposta visto che sono molto sfiduciato in quanto molte delle mie rose presentano questo problema (alcune sono già morte).
Grazie
Renzo
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#3 of 22 posted
21 AUG 11 by
jedmar
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Renzo, you do not have to cut off the affected branches. Spraying once every morning for some period (even a couple of weeks) should show some success: New foliage can then develop. Do not despair, even if this year is catastrophic, roses develop some immunity in the next years.
Renzo, non c'è bisogno di tagliare i rami colpiti. Spruzzare ogni mattina per un certo periodo (anche un paio di settimane) dovrebbe mostrare un certo successo: foglie nuove possono poi svilupparsi. Non disperate, anche se quest'anno è catastrofica, rose sviluppare una certa immunità nei prossimi anni.
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#4 of 22 posted
22 AUG 11 by
Re
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Ciao, ho portato alcune foglie ad un vivaio e mi hanno detto che potrebbero esserci anche degli acari (nella parte inferiore delle foglie sembra come ci siano delle ragnatele) e trattero le piante con un acaricida (miro della Bayern). Grazie comunque per i consigli, ti terrò aggiornato sui risultati.
A presto
Renzo
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#5 of 22 posted
15 SEP 11 by
Re
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Ciao
volevo informarti che il problema Oidio è stato quasi del tutto isolato. In queste settimane, tra le altre ho dovuto conbattere con i ragnetti rossi che avevano infestato molte piante. Adesso spero, di aver risolto questi problemi, le rose stanno rifiorendo con buona vigoria e ti ringrazio per i tuoi buoni consigli.
T'invio in allegato la foto di una rosa non trovo il nome, Puoi aiutarmi???
Grazie Renzo
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#6 of 22 posted
15 SEP 11 by
jedmar
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Can anyone help Renzo with identification of this rose?
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The flower looks like About Face. http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.37356 I don't read the language the request is posted in. Might it be of the appropriate vintage?
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#8 of 22 posted
16 SEP 11 by
Re
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thank you for responding, but, even if the colors are very similar, I do not think that corresponds with About Face, About Face it when the flower opens is fairly flat, while the flowers of this rose is still erect. If you continue to help me I would be grateful, because I have many roses anke unknown in my garden, and I want to give names.
thanks
Renzo
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You're welcome Renzo, I'll watch and comment as I can, but being in Europe, you have access to literally hundreds of roses I shall never see as they aren't brought into the US. The best I can hope to offer would be suggestions of the possibly two thousand varieties I have either grown or sold in my work. Kim
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I agree it's not About Face. About Face has distinctive grey-green (ugly) foliage and tons of thorns, both of which are missing from your photo. Belle Epoque would be as close as I could come, but I also see (I think) more petals on your rose than on that one.
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Plus, here, Belle Epoque was far less dense or saturated color, more pastel. And it never developed any kind of growth I could call "vigorous". Kim
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#12 of 22 posted
16 SEP 11 by
RoseBlush
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Renzo, since you are a premium-member of HMF, you can use the ADVANCED SEARCH feature to help you identify some of the roses in your garden by entering more than one plant characteristic and narrow your search for identification. For example, if you know the rose is a hybrid tea, you can select CLASS and then tick the HYBRID TEA box, then click CONTINUE. Then if you know your rose is "orange", you can select COLOR and tick the box for ANY ORANGE or a specific orange color like "orange-red". You can continue to add more characteristics to narrow the search. However, if you add too many characteristics, you may not get a large enough search results. You can always refine your search by adding and deleting characteristics.
Please note, HMF has evolved over time and many of these characteristics were not entered when the roses were first added to the database, but we are working to add them to the roses that were entered before the characteristic enhancements were put in place to make the ADVANCED SEARCH feature more useful.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#13 of 22 posted
16 SEP 11 by
Re
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Thank you for work, I do not think it neanke of Belle Epoque. I'm sorry but I tried to use search, as you advise me, but I can only put a few signs i am a novice on the knowledge of this beautiful plant, and the result is always negative. I will still tentativi.Pubblico also photos of other unnamed roses and would like to baptize them and I would be grateful if someone could help me do it.
thanks
Renzo
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#14 of 22 posted
16 SEP 11 by
RoseBlush
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Renzo...
Great ! I was hoping you would keep trying to work with the ADVANCED SEARCH to identify your other roses. It's a good tool to use to narrow down the possibilities of an indentification.
I am certain members of the rose community will help, too.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#15 of 22 posted
17 SEP 11 by
Jay-Jay
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The first rose MIGHT be Belle Époque from Fryer...... when the petal-count matches.
The colours of this rose match that of the one in my climate/garden.
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#16 of 22 posted
17 SEP 11 by
Re
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Hello Jay-Jay. Belle Epoque would be very similar, but I also see (I think) plus rose petals on my roses Belle Epoque. In addition, Belle Epoque, the color has far less dense or saturated, more pastel. My plant is robust, has few thorns and blooms throughout the season with solitary flowers.
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#17 of 22 posted
17 SEP 11 by
Jay-Jay
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Hello Renzo, mine isn't pastel at all, very saturated! And a good example is this photo From Margaret MacLean: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.27928
I just checked my plant for prickles: only the first 40 cm above groundlevel have some thorns, but higher no, or almost no one.
The canes are green, and the height (second season and pruned like a HT) is 1.60 m.
Flowers are mostly single on long stems.
HMF description says: very vigorous!!!
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#18 of 22 posted
17 SEP 11 by
Re
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Hello, it's true the picture is very similar to mia.rosa. When I see you are advised to research I wrote about Belle Epoque Rose and he appears as a hybrid 4 BELLE EPOQUE you with photos that looked like my nos. I think it's just that even though a lot has no scent. I would like to ask why can not my rose sciudersi completely, the petals, in fact, remain fairly closed (see my photo) and so tend to become discolored.
thanks
Renzo
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#19 of 22 posted
4 NOV 11 by
Jay-Jay
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Would it be possible, that this rose is Remember Me = Rose d'Amour?
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#20 of 22 posted
6 NOV 11 by
Re
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Hello Jay-jay,
as you suggested with the posted 17 - September is definitely the first photo belle epoque.
The 2th and 3th picture in your opinion can be Coral Bay??
Even if my rose is not very fragrant.
thanks
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#21 of 22 posted
6 NOV 11 by
Jay-Jay
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Okay Renzo, I misunderstood that about Belle Époque. But Coral Bay I don't know, because I've never seen that rose.
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#22 of 22 posted
21 OCT 12 by
Jay-Jay
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I react on: Reply #5 of 22 posted 15 SEP 11 byRenzo...
It might be Remember me.
At this moment (fall) it has that same colour as on this picture and is really a look-alike.
I plucked the rose, it's on a vase and I'll try to photograph it tomorrow.
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5 APR 12 by
Re
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HELP ME FIND ABOUT THE NAME THIS ROSE????
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Hi Renzo, OK, you're in Italy, so it may well be something we don't have here in the US. Is this something you rooted or otherwise propagated from a cut flower or one from a friend or relative? Or, is this a flower from a plant you bought or growing in someone's garden? If you can give some back ground about where the plant came from, it will help narrow the search. If you bought the plant from a nursery, they may know, or if it's in a friend's garden, they may remember where they bought it and be able to direct you where to ask. If it's a florist rose which has been propagated, it will help focus the search to florist cut flowers.
Is this a bush plant or a climber? Might it be possible to get more detailed images of it, please? The photo shows an unopen bud and a fairly spent flower. More details about the plant habit, foliage, prickles, various stages of flower development will also help to figure out what its name is. Thanks.
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24 MAR 12 by
Re
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Hello,
Send photos of roses accented with problems (disease?). I hope I can be clear enough to be properly displayed and belong to a total of 5 plants (4 M. Carriere, and Bourbon Queen) all climbing plants, in pots for more than 50l. The leaves of Mme Careers are very loose and hanging, as you can see from the photos, even the buds are folding. Can you help me, already last year is a dead Mme careers with the same symptoms.
I look forward to a courteous much detail (if possible) feedback and advice on possible interventions to be made.
thanks
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Hmmm... it looks like several problems could be going on at once. Firstly, how much sun are these plants getting each day? 6+ hours or more/less. Secondly, how long have they been in their pots? Thirdly, have they been fertilized? Fourthly, are they getting enough water?
The leaves with the dark green veins look chlorotic. This could be a nitrogen deficiency. The others that are yellow to brown could represent a potassium deficiency. In either case, fertilizing with a balanced, quick release fertilizing product may help. Have you checked for insects? Spider mite damage can cause leaves to spot, yellow and look chlorotic also.
If the roses have been in the same pots for some years, they could be root-bound and starved. Additionally, they could be taking up water very quickly and drying out between wettings. If the plants are getting too little sun (less than 4-6 hours per day) they can also become spindly and bare. Once one problem starts, others can take hold more easily because the plants are stressed. Does any of this help?
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#7 of 11 posted
24 MAR 12 by
Re
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Meanwhile, thanks for reply, the two careers are inserted under an arch, the right is a plant that is potted for over 2 years and takes a sun for more than three hours a day this season (take 5 to arrive in summer) , and i think he has enough water, the Careers left, is potted from 6 months, has the same problem and it is in front (2m) to the other, does not take much sun (2 hours in this period but the rays do not arrive the vessel). Recently I started to give specific fertilizer. The problem of spiders has been a big issue in September 2011, one week I started to spray a pesticide specifically for spiders. If the leaves with dark green veins appear chlorotic and you refer to the last photo (Bourbon queen) even it had last year a major attack of spider mites. This winter already Mme Careers died with them the same symptoms.
Please give me some advice on how to intervene Tenedos realize that I am a novice with the roses. In addition, I would point out that I have another 70 roses (ht, te, and bourbon, etc.) that are in flowering and seem to sufficiently lush-
I await your kind a consultation,
thanks
Renzo
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I looked over the photos of other roses in your garden. They are beautiful!
Regarding the Mme. Carriere and Bourbon Queen, I would do this: if the pots are 50L size then they should be quite large enough for plants 2 years old or less. I would make sure the plants are positioned to get as much sun as possible, at least 4 hours. Mme. Carriere and Bourbon Queen are both somewhat more tolerant of shade than other roses but will perform best with more sun- 6+ hours would be optimal. I would continue to fertilize them regularly using a quality, water soluble blend made specifically for roses. I have noticed that my potted roses seem to perform better with more feedings than those that are ground planted.
I would aggressively treat the plants for harmful insects, especially mites. I am having a battle with spider mites on one of my potted roses here in North Carolina right now! The mites seem to prefer potted roses instead of those in the landscape. They can defoliate a potted plant in a few days. Several insecticide treatments over the course of 2 or 3 weeks may be necessary to kill them all. And usually, once spider mites have been a problem, they will come back. Vigilance is important to stay ahead of them. I would use a broad spectrum insecticide that is labeled to kill both the mites and their eggs as well as any other common rose pests. Mites lay eggs in the soil near infested plants so treat the soil, canes, blooms and both sides of all the leaves.
I hope this well help your roses. I grow Mme. Carriere and the Bourbon, Kathleen Harrop. I love them both.
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#9 of 11 posted
25 MAR 12 by
Re
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thans for the compliment, mine is unfortunately only a small garden. I'm afraid that can not be mites (alyhough i still processing) because the lives are green clear and clean, while last year when they were attacked b the spider was gray....
Today, as the advice, igave to the iron rose to fight some chlorosis. I hope that the two Carriere can recover as soon as possible and will post the photo of their location....
Thanks again for suggeriment and i'm sorry for my bad english....
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#10 of 11 posted
25 MAR 12 by
Jay-Jay
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Good luck Renzo.
I use ground volcanic lava (Eifelgold) for suppleting essential minerals.
There are volcano's too in Italy. Maybe You can obtain some.
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#11 of 11 posted
30 MAR 12 by
Re
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Hi Jay-Jay there are volcano in Italy but there are long way, what about these leaves????
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#2 of 11 posted
24 MAR 12 by
Jay-Jay
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Did You feed them lime/calcium?
It could be a shortage in iron, when they got to much calcium.
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#4 of 11 posted
24 MAR 12 by
Jay-Jay
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Your reply makes sense too!!! I just wanted to add another possible answer/solution to the problem
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Ha, no worries. I was just agreeing with you on another issue I didn't think of. I ain't all that :)
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#6 of 11 posted
24 MAR 12 by
Jay-Jay
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I just forgot to mention that in the earlier reply, for it was that obvious/agreeable to me!
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17 SEP 11 by
Re
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Public also photos of other unnamed roses and would like to ID them and I would be grateful if someone could help me do it.
thanks
Renzo
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Renzo
To help you and have a better understanding please clarify.
This is pictures of 2 different roses?????
And do you have more info.
Are they Hybrid Teas, Floribundas, mini ???
One looks like it might be grafted as a tree rose???
Do have any idea how old they are?
My first impression of the 2 tone red/yellow one is " Judy Garland"
But more info is needed.
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#2 of 5 posted
23 SEP 11 by
Re
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Thank you for responding, the first photo I found the name (from the Belle Epoque Fryer), the second and third photos are the same plant, I would give you some help but I am a novice and I could be wrong, but I think it is a hybrid tea, while the third picture is a little tree grafting (Surprise Party ???). 2 of the plant (pink salmon) I posted more photos.
smile and thanks
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Renzo
Searching for you. Is is possible at all that the 2nd rose is Faberge?
Just not sure if this is even available in your country.
Can you give any more hints.
How old is this rose?
How tall and wide is this rose?
Is there any fragrance?
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#4 of 5 posted
16 OCT 11 by
Re
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thank you for responding, but I think it is a Faberge nos. My rose is a young plant (2 / 3 years). It has no fragrance, is just one meter high and wide. is a hybrid tea and flowers abundantly throughout the season, is easily attacked by powdery mildew. The color tends more orange and fades to pink when full flowering.
I await your possible help. Renzo.
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Renzo
With that info and where you are, I am leaning toward possibly a Kordes rose.
I wonder if it could be something from the Freelander series...........
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