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Initial post 3 MAY 17 by Anita silicon valley
We have had warm weather up into the eighties; the petals baked. It is in mostly sun. Does it need moire water? Less heat?
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 3 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Golden Celebration needs LOOSE & LOAMY & alkaline soil for FASTEST water-uptake. If you put a straw into clay, versus a straw into a glass of water with loose pebbles, it would be easier to draw up water from pebbles/water, than from dense clay.

There's a guy in San Francisco who proved that plants wilt easily in the heat with dense clay, but when he made his clay loamy by mixing in 50% wood-chips, they no longer wilt, despite full sun & hot temp.

My Golden Celebration was in full-sun, loamy & fluffy ALKALINE composted horse manure .. leaves never wilt. Then I moved it to heavy & dense clay, 4 hours morning sun only, tons of rain-water from the gutter .. and it wilted in the sun. Why? The clay is too dense, so water can't be drawn up. Plus I put too much gypsum which drove potassium down. Potassium is needed for retention of water & water-osmosis. The solution to Golden Celebration: make the soil loamy for best water-uptake & supply potassium.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 3 MAY 17 by Lavenderlace
That's a great explanation, thanks Straw!
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 3 MAY 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Adding humus to heavy soils also opens them up and creates suitable conditions for the natural mycorrhizal fungi to flourish. Everyones a winner.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 4 MAY 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Agree to that !! Horse manure is best when it's at least 2 year-old and become humus & dark brown and moist. But the best humus is from decayed leaves, very fluffy, much easier for roots to go through than aged horse manure. Leaves in my zone 5a take at least 2 years to decompose to neutral pH.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 13 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Golden Celebration as own-root likes it alkaline & much more vigorous and healthy if the soil is moist & alkaline and loamy. Now is 92 F hot & dry, and blooms don't scorch in full-sun, since I watered with my pH 9 tap-water, and the blooms have a better scent than with acidic rain. Comte de Chambord next to it have crispy-fried blooms in the heat. Golden Cel's blooms did fry when it was 1st-year own root, but mine is 7th year own-root, so root is deep.

I give it high potassium & high phosphorus, NPK 8-20-40, plus gypsum in the planting hole for its zillion petals. Blooms smell like cup-cakes fresh from the oven (if pH is alkaline), but lesser-quality or gone with acidic rain water. I had seen pictures of Golden Celebration with tons of blooms in a pot, so this rose can bloom well with alkaline-tap-water. I like it so much, I wish I had bought more.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 7 APR by BatinelliGardens
Im looking to try a little cross breeding project does anyone here know weather or not this is fertile in pollen or makes hips? and if not which DA are not sterile
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 8 APR by Nastarana
'Golden Celebration' makes round green hips which are the size of small crab apples.
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most recent 26 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 APR by Anita silicon valley
My rose is a few years old and was not growing enthusiastically and blooming occasionally. After last Winter's 2022 - 2023 rain it has doubled in size and it loaded with fragrant blooms. I had been debating about pulling it out; I'm glad I gave it another chance.. I will water it extra this Summer to see if that keep up the vigor.
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Initial post 14 AUG 22 by Anita silicon valley
It seems to be the same rose as Soul Sister ( Kordes 2015 ) now available at Heirloom Roses.com. I first got it as a test rose from Jackson and Perkins and loved it. They said it didn't do well in all areas so was sold to a company to be marketed in the South. Mine has thrived for seven years now in 10b with heat and less water lately.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 16 AUG 22 by jedmar
You mean it's similar. A Kordes rose cannot be sold with the varietal designation JACamonn.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 14 FEB 23 by jmile
It is NOT the same rose. I have both and they only have a color grouping in common.
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most recent 14 NOV 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 26 NOV 18 by Darrell
You list no nursery for this rose, but according to Combined Rose List 2018, 'Pasadena Tournament' is sold by Burlington Rose Nursery in Visalia, CA.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 27 NOV 18 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Darrell. I have added them to the list of nurseries that stock this rose. Actually the file for Burlington Rose Nursery was showing it was last updated in 2009. (Now updated as of today’s date after my addition). Surely Burling updates it on a regular basis? All nurseries should of course. Unfortunately it is a task that is well beyond the scope of the HelpMeFind volunteers.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 6 NOV 21 by Anita silicon valley
Greenmantle Nurseries in Calif 707-986-7504 has it on their list.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 14 NOV 22 by AquaEyes
I realize this is very late, but as I'm going through Burlington Roses's list, I see that while they have 'Pasadena Tournament', they class it as "Climbing Floribunda", which leads me to believe they don't have the bush form.
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