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Initial post yesterday by JasonSims1984
Hi Kim. :) I have always been very fascinated with your crosses when I'm browsing this site. I wondered if you still grow fedtschenkoana, or if you maybe still have some hybrids of it laying around somewhere. :) I really want to play with this species and try to recreate the Autumn Damask with some improvements like thicker canes, fewer thorns and better repeat. I would be very happy to send you some Irises. I'm certain you have every rose I could send you. lol.
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Reply #1 of 8 posted yesterday by Rupert, Kim L.
Hi Jason, yes sir, I still have Fedtschenkoana, though it's just barely hanging on. I need to repot it as it's almost out of soil, so I don't know if there are any suckers available. And, yes, I do have some hybrids of it as well as pollen collected from them. These are here now...

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.74361.0
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.39747.0
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.73780.0

Something like two Pink Petticoat X Fedtschenkoana and several others.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted yesterday by JasonSims1984
I like all three, but those first two are really nice. I love lavender colors especially, so the idea of a IHT lila banks cross is really exciting. It would be so neat to cross lavender HTs to several species and then recombine them all to create a rampant lavender. What can I offer you for those? It would be great to cross and recombine them. I want the scented leaves and colorful foliage traits the most from this species. And its propensity for creating moss roses. I have a very lofty set of goals.
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Reply #3 of 8 posted yesterday by Rupert, Kim L.
Hi Jason, I have emailed you at the email address you have listed here on HMF. Thanks. Kim
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Reply #4 of 8 posted today by AquaEyes
Kim sent me cuttings of 'R. fedtschenkoana' and its offspring 'DLFED 3', which I've been growing in containers for the last few years. Both are ready to bust out of their current 22" resin barrels, and will be planted at my "cemetery project" either this Autumn or next year. Kim messaged me about your interest, and I'll check tomorrow to see if either has a sucker I can easily remove. I don't want to remove them from their pots as they're currently blooming. If I can't find something I can get now, I'll try rooting cuttings after the first flush. 'R. fedtschenkoana' had just one success out of four or five cuttings, but if I remember correctly, all of 'DLFED 3' took.

If you're impatient, you may wish to check Long Ago Roses for 'DLFED 3', since I sent an extra there a few years ago.

:-)

~Christopher
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Reply #5 of 8 posted today by JasonSims1984
I can wait. :) I'm so excited for just the offer. I love moss roses, and I definitely want to be working on that heavily. I would be very happy to send you some Iris, or perhaps a rose you might find interesting. I get send you tons of rugosa stuff. I'm going to be crossing rugosas and similar species with lots of lavenders, mauves, purples, and magentas. Hearts, Moons, Stars, Clovers and Baloons! Sorry, I just had to. Yeah, I'm going to be playing around with bracteata and roxburghii, so I'll have neat things to send you. You'll have to be very patient for that, as it will be a couple years. But I'll have tons of rugosa rubra and alba seedlings this Summer.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted today by AquaEyes
Thank you, and keep me in mind should you have any OGRs to spare, as well as any named old perennials. I'm starting a heritage rose garden at a 50-acre park-like 19th Century cemetery. Eventually, everything appropriate from my garden will be either propagated for there, or moved there directly. Anything I can get donated means I'm able to direct money toward other things for there.

:-)

~Christopher
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Reply #7 of 8 posted today by Rupert, Kim L.
Christopher, would bearded iris be sufficiently hardy there? I have Crimson King, an 1894 Victorian repeat flowering bearded iris, which was shared with me from the Historic Sacramento Cemetery. It does flower several times a year and it spreads well.

http://historiciris.blogspot.com/2012/04/historic-iris-germanica-crimson-king.html

You're welcome to some if you want it. It's the only iris I grow.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted today by JasonSims1984
I can provide several historic diploid (smaller flowered and species-like) Iris. If you want a really low maintenance and exotic flower, you would love Daturas. They have huge trumpet shaped flowers that open up at night and smell like lemons and jasmine. Rugosas are also prime territory for old fashioned charm. I might have some perrenial scented geraniums. They have blue flowers and the foliage smells pungeantly like patchouli. Nicotiana sylvestris and alata are great self sowing annuals. Oh, and opium poppies. Peony flowered, Danish Flags, Hungarian Blue. I can hook you up if you can give me some time. :)
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Does this rose rebloom like the regular double form?
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Initial post 2 days ago by JasonSims1984
What's the key difference between this species and bracteata?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 2 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Bracteata leaves are deeper green, thicker, glossier with a much heavier cuticle.

It is reported to offer mechanical resistance to RRD. I'm not sure clinopylla has ever been evaluated.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 2 days ago by JasonSims1984
"mechanical resistance"?
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 2 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
The mite can't infect due to thickness of the cuticle, etc., not because it's genetically immune to infection.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 2 days ago by JasonSims1984
oh I see. Yeah. I really like the idea of a nice thick camellia like glossy leaf with a little rugose ridging. Maybe even some dark pigment. Bugs and predators hate tannins and anthocyanins in leaves. It makes them taste bad and they are harder to digest.
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Initial post 15 APR by JasonSims1984
Are there any bracteata x rugosa crosses out there? I would be really fascinated to see what could come of that. It would be like a monster race of roses that would invade the planet! Seriously though, I would love to develop a new rose class. Kordesii is similar, but imagine a rose that would not only thrive everywhere, it would be dangerously invasive. Then use that as a parent with hybrid teas to make roses an easy garden plant again. Roses that could sucker around and end up being found in the wild 100 years from now, like harrisonii. Also, I love the potential of having new remontancy genes from species that haven't been used yet. Maybe, when 5 or more kinds of remontant genetic lines synergize, there could be a rose that would put on the kind of display a once-bloomer does, but do it all year around. 100+ flowers open at once, on a daily basis.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 15 APR by Jay-Jay
Yes there are... Did You check the offspring in the lineage tab?
See: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.5270.7&tab=21&lstTyp=256
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 2 days ago by JasonSims1984
I found pink surprise and bought that. Does anyone have experience with bracteata hybridizing? I know Ralph Moore did a lot with miniatures. I want to create bracteata roses that are more hardy than the species or its more well known hybrids alba odorata and mermaid. I bet the trick will be using an improved fertility parent like Muriel.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 2 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I've created many bracteata derivatives using Moore, Viraraghavan, and Harkness genetics. Most are not listed at HMF.

The species itself is not easy to work with.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 2 days ago by JasonSims1984
I have seen your amazing diversity of seedlings, but never noticed the bracteata crosses. Do you still have any of them, and can I entice you with some Iris or daylilies, or even a stapeliad or orchid? [I'm nearly 100 percent certain that I couldn't possibly have a rose that you don't already have.] hehe. :)
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 2 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Maybe a Stapelia. ;-)

Private message me. I have lots to share.
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