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most recent yesterday HIDE POSTS
Initial post yesterday by Charles Quest-Ritson
I have uploaded a picture of this cultivar that was published in UK in 1962. It is rather different from the picture uploaded by AmiRoses. Please note, in particular, the shape of the petals and the contrast between their pale pink upper sides and darker pink undersides. I would tentatively suggest that it might be appropriate to remove AmiRoses's picture from the site.
Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by HMF Admin
Yes, the photos are unquestionably of different roses; we will need to confer with AmiRoses.

Meanwhile the photo is tagged as potentially inaccurate. Unfortunately, this notice is only visible when one views the full size image. We will add an enhancement to note conflicts of this nature on the thumbnail image and also refrain from featuring the photo on the rose's main page.

Thank you very much for taking the time to share your photo as well as alert us to this misrepresentation.

HelpMeFind greatly (!) appreciates and relies on the HMF community to continually improve the accuracy and integrity of its database.
most recent 6 days ago SHOW ALL
Initial post 26 OCT 10 by John Moody
No longer listed for sale on Wisconsin Roses website..Is there any other vendor offering this for sale or are we down to trading cuttings of patented roses on this one??
Reply #1 of 7 posted 26 OCT 10 by Slugger15
John, I've been looking everywhere as well for the last few months, and I can't find any place that's offering Stephen Rulo. I'm going to try the new Koko Loco instead.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 26 OCT 10 by HMF Admin
Thanks for the update, we've updated the listing.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 16 DEC 10 by Penelope
Wisconsin Roses has this listed on their "Small Numbers Sale List" on their website but not in the regular catalog. Apparently they still have some. I ordered one today.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 17 DEC 10 by John Moody
I did the same just recently Penelope. I don't know how many Steve has at Wisconsin Roses, but he is the only one with any I think.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 17 DEC 10 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
It's a great rose. You will both enjoy it.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 8 MAR 11 by John Moody
I tried growing it a couple of years ago but it just fizzled out. It never got very vigorous at all. I am hoping this second time around it will do better. I am also getting some cuttings from another rosarian friend to try and propagate it as well. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I am amazed that this rose has already fallen by the wayside of the vendors with none really offering it frontline for sale.
Why do you think this is happening to what is apparently a very pretty rose??
Reply #7 of 7 posted 6 days ago by drossb1986
Do any of you still have this rose and would be willing to send cuttings? I can't find it anywhere.
most recent 3 JAN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 3 JAN by Daniel Alm
Moderators, I can’t find any reference to the stated nine to twelve foot height for this rose on its HMF description? I did find the following references that vary from two feet up to six feet in height (~Benaminh):
Reply #1 of 2 posted 3 JAN by HMF Admin
The odd height would indicate the source was a non-US metric designation. That will have to be our starting point to research its origin.

Thank you so very much for taking the time to report this issue. We very much rely on the HMF community to help us continually improve the depth, accuracy, and overall usefulness of our website.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 3 JAN by Patricia Routley
I've changed the mysterious height to that quoted by the Patent.
most recent 30 DEC SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 DEC 13 by andrewandsally
According to FG Cazzaniga's own notebook: Obtention date 1961; parentage Paprika x Coup de Foudre. The same page gives 1960 for Tiziana and 1962 for Nerone, whose parents are given as Chrysler Imperial x Haway (ie, I suppose, Boerner's Hawaii)
Reply #1 of 9 posted 15 DEC 13 by HMF Admin
Thank you!

This is very much what HelpMeFind is about; a mutable resource collecting the knowledge of the rose community all over the world.
Reply #2 of 9 posted 30 DEC by Dufour Olivier
I search where I can buy some plants of rose Prof. Alfred Dufour? I'm his nephew and we will install them in a "historical familial garden" in Geneva, at the "Maison Dufour" (House of the Gen. GH Dufour).
Reply #3 of 9 posted 30 DEC by andrewandsally
I very much doubt that this rose is currently available. Regrettably the Cazzaniga family does not maintain an "archive nursery". I suggest you write to Vivai Cazzaniga, Via della Repubblica 21, 20090 Vimodrone, MI, Italy to check.
Reply #4 of 9 posted 30 DEC by Dufour Olivier
Thank you for your message.
I will write like you suggest to Vivai Cazzaniga.
Do you think that the Mioprio gardens have some Prof. Alfred Dufour plants?
I will search in Geneva too: In the "Roseraie de la Ville de Genève" (I have seen some Prof Alfred Dufour roses some years ago) and in the "Centre horticole de Lullier".
Best regards
Reply #5 of 9 posted 30 DEC by Jay-Jay
Another way to try out:
The nursery "De Bierkreek" in the Netherlands has a good connection and contact to the Garden in Italy, that grows this rose: Carla Fineschi Foundation Rose Garden
And they might get the permission to propagate this rose for You.
You might find "De Bierkreek" in the left column under Commercial and the "nurseries" button.
Good luck with Your search.
Reply #6 of 9 posted 30 DEC by Dufour Olivier
Waoh, thank you, I will try this way too.
Best regards
Reply #7 of 9 posted 30 DEC by Jay-Jay
You're welcome!
Reply #8 of 9 posted 30 DEC by andrewandsally
I think Jay-Jay's suggestion is good. Minoprio might have the rose - the breeder's eldest son taught there for some time - but I don't think they're equipped to supply cuttings. Still, it's worth trying.
Reply #9 of 9 posted 30 DEC by Dufour Olivier
Thank you andrewandsally and Jay-JKay.
Have a nive and happy new year 2018.
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