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StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
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Initial post 6 JUL by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I admire your purple "Flying Kiss" climber, will look for that at local HomeDepot. Is "Flying Kiss" sold as own-root, or grafted on Dr.Huey ?? Thanks for any info. Saw a bed of your "My Girl" rose at nearby Cantigny Rose Park, amazing healthy leaves & tons of blooms. Also saw a bed of your "Kashmir" rose at Chicago Botanical Garden, zone 5b ... amazing health & so many blooms. A friend in zone 5a raved about your "Kiss me" rose, which she bought from Lowe's. I bought your Grandma's blessing, so many blooms in a pot at HomeDepot ... I was torn between that versus Pink-Knock-out, and I chose Grandma's blessing at the end ... love those shiny & healthy foliage.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Rosesbyping
Wow! Thank you for the nice comments and the love of roses! FlyingKiss(aka:True Gratitude) on it own root this year release in limited quantity, if you find in any store please grab it as soon as you can! Hopefully our production will be caught up! Again, thank you! sincerely Ping
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Initial post 9 FEB 12 by Jerome Molokie
Having grown this rose for only 11 months now, I am very pleased with it. It has beautiful growth habit, lots of foliage (the description says "medium green" but to my eye it's darker, with bronze new growth and stems that stay a mahogany color - most attractive) and bushy habit. It does send out some longer shoots, but where I have it planted it is not an "octopus". Its flowers are very fragrant and produced with regularity. After the experience of these past 11 months - I liked Young Lycidas so much that I ordered more bare root plants to put in this season as well. A very nice rose.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 17 AUG by mamabotanica
Still doing well? I bought a Barbara Streisand own root hybrid tea for the lovely purple color and fragrance but in the photos on here some look more silvery than I like. Wondering if I should gift it to someone and plant Young Lycidas in that spot (Bright morning and afternoon sun but full shade from about 2 pm onward in my warm zone 10 Pasadena garden.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 17 AUG by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Barbra Streisand as own-root gives me a hard-time in hot & dry weather. The color is dull-gray-purple. Leaves fried in full-sun at mid 80 F. So I moved Barbra to 4 hours of morning sun .. bloomed well with tons of acidic rain & flash flood. Then we got into hot & dry and I watered with my alkaline-tap water for only 4 days, and Barbra immediately broke out in blackspot (so wimpy as own-root). In contrast, folks report about Young Lycidas: 1) good for the vase 2) can take full-sun 3) leaves are similar to Sharifa Asma, and Sharifa Asma behaves well in hot & dry as own-root for me.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 23 AUG by Jerome Molokie
Yes...it's still plugging along. Great rose
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 3 days ago by mamabotanica
How big is it in your garden? I have a small spot that I could fit a smallish rose in (3x3 ideally but 4x4 could work) and I know that Austins are notorious for growing to gargantuan proportions in Southern California. Does she stay petite or perhaps pruning to keep her under control?
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Reply #5 of 5 posted today by Jerome Molokie
I'd say it would be easily maintainable at 4 x 4 or even smaller. At least that's been the experience here at the abbey.
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Initial post 13 JUL by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I bought Anna's Promise as own-root this June. Can it handle hot sun above 90 F, or does it need partial shade? Thank you.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 days ago by Robert1
It does fine in the heat. Blooms are long lasting.
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Initial post 20 MAY by Michael Garhart
Half of the nurseries bought like 20-30 Mister Lincolns each, and none of this rose. Holy crap. Why? Mister Lincoln is like 10' here, lol. A few nurseries ordered in 5 or so Lasting Love, which is okay, but completely defoliates here. I will never understand the nursery business mindset.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 20 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Mr. Lincoln is a sparse bloomer, so it doesn't use up the calcium/potassium in a pot, esp. for a high-rain climate, which leaches out those nutrients. Mr. Lincoln always look good in a pot at local store.

Firefighter is a heavy bloomer, which depletes calcium/potassium, and it breaks out in blackspot AFTER blooming, unless those minerals are abundant, as in alkaline clay. My Firefighter improved after I moved from acidic potting soil to heavy alkaline clay. So the stingy roses like Mr. Lincoln look really healthy in a pot, but the heavy bloomers: Firefighter, Buxom Beauty can be blackspot-fest after done with blooming.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 21 MAY by Michael Garhart
For this area (NW Oregon), Firefighter is healthy enough. Just the lower 1/3rd was affected. 'Velvet Fragrance' was by far the healthiest fragrant red HT I have grown here, but the blooms turn to rice crispies if the sun even looks at it sideways. lol

Mister Lincoln can get up to 2-3" diameter wood here. It is a literal monster. 'Oklahoma's is the same way. The modern garden just cannot accommodate here. My question/rant was more-so local nursery owners not realizing that or reaching out to the local societies for updated information, like they used to do.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 21 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
HMF is the best source for info., but I wish folks would specify their soil & climate & planting zone & what region of the country. People want to hold on to "old generalizations", rather than learning. Like nearby rose park, I was shocked to see them dumping sulfur in the spring... they burnt Tamora (prefers alkaline), also induced RRD (rose rosette disease) on Pink Traviata (Meilland rose) which also prefers alkaline. Gypsum is acidic, I killed lots of earthworms using that stuff, and it burns my finger. Gypsum has calcium plus sulfur.

I made the same mistake years ago: dumping sulfur plus high nitrogen chemical fertilizer on a Grandma' Blessing rose, changing my soil pH to acidic. It immediately came down with RRD five years ago. That's the ONLY rose with RRD in my 30+ years of growing roses, among 100+ varieties. I planted Radio Times in the exact spot, but I raised the pH with more alkaline clay, and no RRD ever since. I wish folks would stop generalizations, "Mr. Lincoln for fragrant reds", "roses prefer acidic", and "roses need full-sun". Own-root roses are completely different from each other.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 3 FEB by ac91z6
Replying because I want to archive all the information in this post for future reference about Mr. Lincoln and Firefighter. Good information here!
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