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most recent 19 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 DEC by Matt's Northwest Florida Garden
Nabonnand’s description is right. Large flowers but not extremely full when fully open. Balls in wet weather though. Although this rose looks like a generic pink tea, the petals have a very delicate texture, much like tissue paper. A light fragrance, tea and sweet makes this bloom delightful. It’s very free flowering. The bush is vigorous and disease resistant here in the wet and humid climate of Northwest Florida. Growth is of the twiggy, dense type, much like Mlle Franziska Krueger. Petioles are often droopy but sometimes blossoms are held erect. Great for cutting, long stems too.
most recent 12 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 DEC by Matt's North Texas Rose Garden
What an unappealing name for such a lovely rose
Reply #1 of 7 posted 12 DEC by Margaret Furness
It was named for the girl the breeder later married. I'd say it wins hands down over some modern names which are downright tacky.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 12 DEC by jedmar
Léonie and Eugènie were daughters of Jean-Baptiste Lamesch, who had established a rose nursery in Dommeldingen, Luxembourg. So, it is another of those rose Family stories.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 12 DEC by Rupert, Kim L.
Lambert raised and named the rose in 1899. He named one Leonie Lamesch, and a second, Eugenie Lamesch. Two years later, he married Leonie.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 12 DEC by Margaret Furness
They went to St Petersburg for their honeymoon, and were invited by the Tsar to attend a court ball at The Hermitage, which was decorated with Lambert-bred roses. That's quite a compliment!
Reply #4 of 7 posted 12 DEC by Rupert, Kim L.
What a marvelous continuation of the story, Margaret! Thank you!
Reply #5 of 7 posted 12 DEC by Margaret Furness
Research by a Heritage Roses in Aus member, who wrote a series on major 19th century rose breeders for our Journal. And I've just found it among the References! I should learn to look there first.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 12 DEC by Rupert, Kim L.
(Sheepishly) I guess I should, too!
most recent 6 OCT SHOW ALL
Initial post 18 JAN 12 by goncmg
Have grown this rose in central valley California and now 6a, Columbus. Every year I fall a little more out of love with it. It is quite unique, the petals are uniquely ruffled, the foliage is olive green and also basically ruffled, it is a bicolor/multicolor with a heavy scent. 48 years ago this was a hallmark. I had to create a "sick zone" this year in my yard (all in huge terracotta pots, sleep in the garage) mostly because of Granada and the fact it and it alone got disfiguring mildew, AGAIN, which I could not clear regardless of what I tried. Another one that back in the 70's was re-classified for years as a GR due to the fact it generally blooms in clusters if not pannicles. I'm just losing enthusiasm for this one and feel it over-rated and resting on its reputation that was gained years ago and before better bi-multi colors with scent appeared. If you have heard of it and wanted to try it likely it is worth the gamble if no more than so you can just say you tried what is basically a "legend." If Secret or Double Delight (its child) strike your fancy, by all means, walk on by..........its rating has fallen notably in the past decade or so, and although still in the "very good" range, I expect it to keep falling...........
Reply #1 of 4 posted 29 APR 14 by Matt's North Texas Rose Garden
Agree about Double Delight, terrible... but Secret is quite nice and is AMAZING out at my Aunts place in the west Texas high plains.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 29 APR 14 by goncmg
Oh gosh, I think Secret is GREAT! I was suggesting Secret and even DD as an alternative to Granada which I find to be more and more problematic and when my ol' plant ages out, I will not replace it.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 6 OCT by BenT_TX
In my opinion, while Secret and Double Delight are excellent and worthwhile varieties, they are very dissimilar to Granada, and not a suitable replacement. Granada is still quite a unique jewel-toned color combination, at different times you will find red, pink, orange, apricot , copper and yellow...a wonderful kaleidoscope of a bush. It produces a prodigious number of especially elegant buds on long straight single stems, beautiful for both garden display and Cut flowers. It has a very nice old rose fragrance. I understand it has propensity to mildew, but if you live in an area where that’s not a problem, or keep up the spray program, this is still a most uniquely fabulous and indispensable rose.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 6 OCT by Nastarana
I love 'Granada' also, for the changing colors and for the fragrance, but I think it needs a warm and fairly dry climate. I think of it as a late 20thC Pernetiana, in behavior if not in lineage.
most recent 29 APR SHOW ALL
Initial post 3 APR 14 by goncmg
Well, I DID save a "body bag" of this one. Just also gave 30+ away due to space, guess it 'sucks" to be YOU Smokey, Trade Wind, Ivory Tower, Mrs. Herbert Stevens, Azure Sea, Marilyn Monroe, Dark Night and least as my mental construct goes. (And any new growers PLEASE do as I say and not as I DO for I just gave a friend my Marilyn Monroe yet I guard with MY LIFE Marmalade, here in wet HOT sticky HOT Ohio in the summer, lol). NOW: seems like what is OUT there really IS this variety???? I actually, I admit, have wanted this one for a few years and also think that maybe the BUSH is out there from Mea and wax/bagged and being sold as the climber???? Or is somehow the CLIMBER really OUT there now?
Reply #1 of 5 posted 5 APR 14 by Matt's North Texas Rose Garden
I have two of the climber in pots, that I bought bareroot at walmart last year. They are definitely the climber and definitely correct.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 18 MAY 14 by goncmg
Thanks, Matt! Just now saw your response? How big do yours get? Not sure why, but anything I get as a climber never really climbs. Pinata just looked like a big, messy floribunda, same for Joseph's Coat. Golden Showers is a gorgeous pillar but not that much bigger than Fragrant Plum or Cherry Vanilla. Climbing Mrs. Sam McGredy throws out those long laterals but never longer than 6 feet? They all winter in an insulated garage so there's no winter kill here. Trying America and this one for the first time this year. Rescued a body bag Blaze as well. Not sure what I will do if any of these decide to really climb!
Reply #3 of 5 posted 20 MAY 14 by Matt's Northwest Florida Garden
Mine has only produced 3 blooms in the last year but is shooting out a few climbing basals that are over 6 feet. I really don't want them to climb too much, just go up a wall a bit. I expect more and more frequent bloom will come as the plants mature.
Reply #4 of 5 posted 11 APR by jmile
I have one that was planted in a pot but broke out and went to ground. It is huge and is covered with the most exquisite orchid purple flowers. Each flower is perfect form. We had a really wet year this year and my roses are going crazy with blooms.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 29 APR by jmile
I have a Orchid Masterpiece that I got many years age. It was in a pot ---but it has gone to ground and found its own place in my garden. It climbs very beautifully on a tree in my orchard. This year it was covered from top to bottom with the most perfect HT show quality blooms. The drought is over yea. By the way its canes are at least 10 + feet long----and there are quite a few of them.
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