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Matthew 0rwat
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Striking coloration, raspberry caramel comes to mind. Very small plant, very small blooms even in mild temperatures of early spring. Blooms are coming in clusters as own root plant slowly develops. About the size of a miniflora this one is and I’m not happy about that. I’m also getting blackspot on this variety, 1 of 3 out of 70 that have it. I’m holding off making a “cut” here but the color alone won’t save it. I’m not a grower of minis and minifloras that’s the big deal breaker. Then there is the blackspot…….I’ll hold off until end of the year, will give it a full season but so far other than color it doesn’t appeal to me nor is it a good fit for my collection.
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Probably needs to be grafted/budded
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25 MAR by
goncmg
I think I’ll try that as I do still have mine. I put it with the floribundas I grow and it fits in a lot better with them. The plant has gotten healthier and it does seem happy and eager. It remains very small scale with lots of clusters.
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I think you have Charlotte Brownell. They often get confused in the nursery trade
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This is listed as a found rose which isn't correct. From communication with Dr Yoshihiro Ueda a few years ago he informed me he introduced the Chinese ancient roses(Chun Shui Lu Bo,Jin Pin Fan Lu, Qin Lian Xue Shi, Si Chun, Sui Mei Ren, Tian Nu Guang, Ji Nang, Yin Ri He Hua) from Huaian Yueji Yuan(Huaian Rose Garden) in Jiangsu Province of China in 2002
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I wonder if this one is an old tea hybrid from the early 1900s colonial period that somehow wound up in the Chinese garden, or is there evidence of this hybrid existing in China before the 1800s?
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I don't understand why you would suppose this. There were hundreds of bred roses going back to before the Ming dynasty, mostly double and repeat blooming. somewhere I have an article mentioning around 60 varieties. What we class as Teas and Chinas were brought back to Europe in the late 18th century by Italian missionaries of which many were probably used by the French breeders. Nearly all of the earliest Teas died out, probably from not being hardy eneugh for the european (French) climate. Its pretty well documented that the Chinese were very fond of large double flowered repeating roses well before even the missionaries turned up. Unless someone can match this rose's characteristics to an existing HT, I can't agree with this hypothesis
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They were selling it locally. Smelled it. Zero scent. Ho hum :[
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Funny because scent is so variable on some roses. At the Dothan Area Botanical Gardens, I smelled this rose and it had a moderate, sweet scent. Not intense but definitely there.
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6 NOV 22 by
Rosieoh
I only recently noticed a fragrance in Plum Perfect. It is a young plant, only it’s second growing season in my garden, so I don’t know if it’s because it’s maturing, or the weather is cooler, or some other factor. I did sniff the blooms often, and was disappointed until now with fragrance. I would not describe it as a strong fragrance, but mild to moderate. The blooms are lovely, and the plant has been healthy in this area of high black spot pressure
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