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Matthew 0rwat
RoseOsiria
most recent 25 AUG 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 APR 15 by Matthew 0rwat
Palatine roses discontinued this rose because it was too popular. They were afraid that its poor plant quality and vigor and lack of disease resistance would turn off novices from growing roses. But what about us veterans that want to give it a try? Now it is no longer available in the USA.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 22 JAN 16 by goncmg
There is also that photohopped pic of it circulating like everywhere. I bet Palatine was getting tired of handling complaints that the rose doesn't look in the actual garden as it does in that widely circulated picture. I mean, people buy those "rainbow colored rose seeds" on Ebay....so many people with good intentions are really misinformed and naïve with roses. I really don't understand why, either. On that note I heard a horror story of a novice grower who kept picking off the new growth on her spring plant. WHY? Because it was red and not green. Shaking my head.........
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 26 APR 16 by Buggy
And this is why I'm still sad. I've been looking for this plant for 3 years now here in the US. No luck. :(

And the search continues....
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 26 APR 16 by goncmg
Did you see, Buggy, that Roses Unlimited in South Carolina lists it?? The plant would be own root and not budded and if that nursery lists it that may or may not mean they actually have it on stock at this moment---they may need to propagate it. But that is some hope! Hit they "buy from" tab, find R U and hit their link to get to their website. I think you have to email or call for rose availability but they carry great (albeit own root) product. Hope this is good news!
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 25 AUG 22 by GardenGlimpses
I received one from Roses Unlimited this spring. It’s proved to be a very decent garden rose, quality blooms, generous, well formed , good repeat. Held decent size and petal count in hot summer. I guess no one told it that it was supposed to be difficult and weak! Very pleasantly surprised, From a 1 gallon plant, it has probably bloomed more in 4 months than Snowfire did in 2 years, plus it’s not crazy with thorns. (And I liked Snowfire, just wished it bloomed more).
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Initial post 2 JUN 22 by Matthew 0rwat
This is a fantastic rose for hot and humid Northwest Florida (Panhandle). It is floriferous, vigorous and well scented. The yellow color holds up in the heat and disease problems are minimal. Highly recommended either own root or grafted onto Fortuniana.
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most recent 17 MAY 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 MAY 22 by Matthew 0rwat
I think I have this, found in Florida
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most recent 27 APR 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 MAY 12 by goncmg
In the parentage of a lot of roses...............so far, and this is the first year I have grown this one...........so far not at all impressed. Here in 6a there was simply no winter as we know it, blackspot is already all over Columbus Park of Roses and also in my garden, unprecedented. MILDEW here in Columbus has been HORRIFYING in the past year and continues............of 90 in my garden, this is in the bottom 3 or 4 with disease, right near BLACK BACCARA............spray DAILY, no help............GREY PEARL and SOLEIL D'OR are healthier than this one and BB...............has a few buds and I am waiting to see what everyone 60+ years saw in this one................historical purposes have kept me from throwing it in the trash............
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 16 MAY 12 by Margaret Furness
I work on the lazy gardener's rule of thumb: if it needs spraying, it's not worth growing. There's more to life (and gardens) than roses!
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 17 MAY 12 by goncmg
Margaret, SERIOUSLY...........with 90 all in pots I am really having to be more practical and let some of the sentimentality leave the equation!
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 17 MAY 12 by Patricia Routley
I am quite sure Margaret is serious. She has grown hundreds of roses in pots for victims of Australian bush fires; the National Rose Collection in Renmark, and plants for friends. I too have grown hundreds of roses in pots over the last decade and never used any spray at all. There is a huge population of gardeners out there who will not spray. Try to read up on the diseases and understand what happens when they occur. Blackspot is spread by water splash (and needs an incubation period of about five hours), so you may need to turn your back until dry weather returns and the new leaves will be pristine for the rest of the summer.
I believe mildew may be caused by dry conditions and I know of a Western Australian nursery who turns the sprinkler on briefly during the day to wash the leaves clean of mildew.
As for spraying a rose (any rose) daily, please rethink about this. It is wrong.
Patricia
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 17 MAY 12 by goncmg
OH NO Patricia, I was AGREEING with Margaret! LOL That all cap SERIOUSLY was emphatic agreement!!!!!!
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 17 MAY 12 by Patricia Routley
Oh. I am glad about that.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 18 MAY 12 by Margaret Furness
I knew you were agreeing. But I am serious about avoiding unnecessary work! For example, I'm removing roses that need pruning at a height my back doesn't like.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 1 MAY 14 by Matthew 0rwat
Is this rose nearly thornless? I am working on identifying a 30 year old 7 foot tall HT, with the flowers nearly identical to this. It had the worst case of Blackspot I have ever seen, but has managed to produce a flush of 50+ blooms and grow to seven feet tall and five feet wide with 10+ canes. The lady has claimed to never spray it, and it grows out of its Blackspot infections. Mild, fruity, "pernetiana" fragrance.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 27 APR 22 by Michael Garhart
Fandango is described in the patent to be shorter, bushier than the average HT of that era.

It is one of the things that made it unique for a Pernet type. It was shorter and had enameled foliage when compared to its massive lineages.
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