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Sherri Berglund 
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Who knows a climbing rose, that makes hips the size of figs or Mespilus Germanica?
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Mme. Berard might be one to consider.
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#2 of 7 posted
28 OCT 13 by
Jay-Jay
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Thank You Sherri,
The only hip-photo on HMF shows it green, but it has some resemblance in form.
I saw, that You grow this rose, so You might have seen the hips for real... and might compare them with mine as an expert by personal experience!
I'll give the tea-house in the park a phone-call too. But doubt if they'll know the name of this rose.
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Please see the photo I just posted under Mme. Berard. Another feature is the smooth stems of this rose. The plant I grow sets a large quantity of hips.
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#4 of 7 posted
29 OCT 13 by
Jay-Jay
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Thank You very much Sherri for the photos of the hips and rose.
There is ofcourse still some healthy doubt, for the hip my wife found in the park ( http://www.ramswoerthe.info/page27.php ) has the colours of a ripe mango or cactus-fig.
But the size and form seem to match.
Didn't reach the tea-house untill now.
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#5 of 7 posted
30 OCT 13 by
jedmar
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'Mme Grégoire Staechelin' and various Gigantea-Hybrids also produce very large hips.
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#6 of 7 posted
30 OCT 13 by
Jay-Jay
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A Gigantea Hybrid is not likely in our climate-zone; Mme Grégoire Staechelin is a possibillity, but couldn't find hips of it. Will call the green-department of the city hall of that town. Then I'll report.
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#7 of 7 posted
31 OCT 13 by
Jay-Jay
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Hello,
I talked to the "Green-man" of the cityhall and he told me after some search, that the climbing-roses at the Tea House are: Guinée and Crimson Rambler.
I think the latter doesn't form that big hips, for it's a Multiflora-rambler.
Does any-one know the size of the hips and seeds of this rose, or does have photo's?
I would be much obliged, if one would upload them on HMF.
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Probably Orange Sunblaze.
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In the Catalogue descriptif methodique ….pp. 204-206, Prevost reports, besides ROSE EDWARD, a few ROSA BORBONIANA, Desportes. – R. CANINA BORBONIANA, Thory. – ROSIER DE BOUBON, namely:
n. 806 ROSE EDWARD son nom à l'Ile de France, suivant plusieurs cultivateurs.
n. 807 ROSE DE BOURBON, A FLEUR MULTIPLE – R. DE BOURBON PERPETUELLE, L.
n. 808 ROSE DE BOURBON CARNEE, L.
n. 809 ROSE DE BOURBON A FLEUR PLEINE. - BENGALE NEUMAN, nom de son introducteur. - ROSE DE L'ILE DE FRANCE, Dubreuil. - BENGALE DUBREUIL, V., Cat. 1826.
Besides, in the Supplement Catalogue descriptif ...pp. 22- 24 Prevost reports a few others ROSA BORBONIANA. – ROSIER DU BOURBON:
n. 935 ROSE DE BOURBON A PETALES CRENELES
n. 936 ROSIER DE BOURBON HETEROPHYLLE, L.
and a couple of Hybrides:
n. 937 ATHALIN, L.
n. 938 LAS CASAS, V.
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#1 of 5 posted
10 AUG 11 by
jedmar
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Yes, the synonyms shown are not quite correct, as there were probably a few Bourbon roses introduced within a short period by different people, and some grown from seed. The relevant literature is quite confusing and inconsistent. A comparative planting of Bourbons is under way in Germany and may give some answers in a couple of years.
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#2 of 5 posted
11 AUG 11 by
Cà Berta
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From the large amount of the scattered references that were collected I realize that a great effort is made to rationalize this issue. My comment intended to contribute by pointing to the existence of a reference “in business” and “close to the time” that already tried to rationalize the knowledge available a few years after the introduction of these roses. It might still be useful although Prevost fils were not infallible!
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I am curious; is the Bourbon Rose planting in Germany in a public garden? I plan on visiting Germany in June and have an interest in the early Bourbon roses, if the site would be feasible to visit.
Sherri
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#4 of 5 posted
20 FEB 13 by
jedmar
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No, it is private. I will send you a post.
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Thank you! I appreciate your help!
Sherri
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Cascade Rose Nursery catalog, Richmond, Indiana, 1877, lists 'Bella' as "white with aa tinge of lemon; vigorous habit; a free bloomer; desirable"
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Thanks Sherri. I've just seen your old comment and have altered the date of 'Bella' from Before 1900 to Before 1877
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